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Jedi Guy

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51. This doesn't pass the smell test.

Mon Apr 20, 2026, 09:12 PM

21 hrs ago

Trump doesn't need to ask Caine or anyone else for the codes. A military attache is always with him and this person has possession of the "football", which contains all the required info. All he has to do is present his authentication, select his target(s), and give the order. The attache has no power to deny him access as long as he presents the correct credentials.

While plausible in the sense that Trump is dumb and/or crazy enough to seriously consider using nukes unprovoked, it strikes me as odd that this retired CIA analyst doesn't know the control procedures and thinks Trump has to ask the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs to give them to him.

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Trump wanted the nuclear codes now debunked [View all] videohead5 23 hrs ago OP

So Trump will find a general who will hand the codes over to him? Irish_Dem 23 hrs ago #1

It sounds as though there occurred a righteous mini-coup. The officers and agents with the sidearms told him, "No." John1956PA 23 hrs ago #2

It's not true. Trump is the commander in chief and could fire anyone that got in his way. pcdb 21 hrs ago #52

EXACTLY. This is the most important story of the year. Irish_Dem 12 hrs ago #79

Could that be why... 2naSalit 23 hrs ago #8

Use a nuke during a search and rescue? RandySF 23 hrs ago #15

Timing... 2naSalit 22 hrs ago #20

I never thought I would say this in my lifetime RandySF 22 hrs ago #22

I lived through... 2naSalit 22 hrs ago #25

My brother was on a destroyer at the blockade. wnylib 21 hrs ago #53

I hope you meant "Sit Room" COL Mustard 22 hrs ago #34

Yeah... 2naSalit 22 hrs ago #36

My guess YES. This is exactly why they kept him out of the room. Irish_Dem 12 hrs ago #80

Again and Again. This Doofus is probably going to kill us all. chouchou 23 hrs ago #3

"The living will envy the dead." PCIntern 22 hrs ago #35

Ah Yes....Ve will bury you. chouchou 22 hrs ago #40

You have. AZ8theist 16 hrs ago #75

Apparently the very last guardrail left held... EarthFirst 23 hrs ago #4

To be a fly on the wall orangecrush 20 hrs ago #63

Don't believe it. RandySF 23 hrs ago #5

Everybody, from 4 star general to 1st Lt on an ICBM crew have the moral displacedvermoter 23 hrs ago #13

everyone has the authority to deny a psycho war crime Tetrachloride 22 hrs ago #32

Not true. Safe as Milk 22 hrs ago #44

The group decided to disobey Chump's insane order FakeNoose 21 hrs ago #50

I'm betting they told him orangecrush 20 hrs ago #64

This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF 19 hrs ago #70

The Missiles Are Flying - The Dead Zone Sector 001 23 hrs ago #6

What's the source? mobeau69 23 hrs ago #7

A twitter post. I posted a fact check from Yahoo news down thread. chowder66 22 hrs ago #23

Caine probably said... back off buster,.. magicarpet 23 hrs ago #9

Read Johnson's wikipedia entry SamuelTheThird 23 hrs ago #10

His claim about t a particular meeting is not a debunk. Bluetus 1 hr ago #93

30 Recs yet smells like clickbait. flvegan 23 hrs ago #11

I just don't have faith anymore that it isn't true displacedvermoter 23 hrs ago #14

Plus no link Polybius 22 hrs ago #19

62 now, and on the front page. So embarrassing. demmiblue 22 hrs ago #30

125 now, and Top 5 Greatest currently. flvegan 21 hrs ago #57

I'm shocked. demmiblue 21 hrs ago #59

If it's true, THAT should be grounds for impeachment AND removal. calimary 23 hrs ago #12

If this were true, it'd be a military coup. mr715 23 hrs ago #16

But who is doing the coup? Trump or the military? Doodley 22 hrs ago #41

The military. mr715 22 hrs ago #46

Refusing illegal orders isn't a coup Diraven 8 hrs ago #84

I have been hearing this all over social media. Baitball Blogger 23 hrs ago #17

Cool story JoseBalow 23 hrs ago #18

Fact Check: Caine Did Not Storm Out of Emergency Meeting After Trump Suggested Threatening Iran With Nuclear Weapons chowder66 22 hrs ago #21

Yahoo reprinted the story from 'Lead Stories' RandySF 22 hrs ago #28

I don't care whether Caine " stormed out." Qutzupalotl 22 hrs ago #31

So the question that's asked and answered is did the general Figarosmom 21 hrs ago #58

Are there any links to this story? radical noodle 22 hrs ago #24

FFS... Larry C. Johnson: demmiblue 22 hrs ago #26

I remember him. RandySF 22 hrs ago #33

That was one terrible web site, spreading misinformation about the Obama Administration. They considered my surfered 8 hrs ago #83

In other words, he's a piece of shit. AZ8theist 16 hrs ago #76

Thanks mobeau69 22 hrs ago #27

Not Corroborated But... 2na fisherman 22 hrs ago #29

From an expert at MIT (2017) RandySF 22 hrs ago #37

Technically yes. There's a little bit of "backroom" gray area when dealing with an unhinged president it seems though Smokster 21 hrs ago #54

Well, we're safe there pedo Trump can't read Farmer-Rick 9 hrs ago #82

Ah, he yearns for the good old days. usonian 22 hrs ago #38

Something of this magnitude needs some verification. spanone 22 hrs ago #39

Trump posted before videohead5 22 hrs ago #47

But didn't you know? BWdem4life 21 hrs ago #55

If this is true he needs to be removed from office now. Botany 22 hrs ago #42

Remember when Trump suggested using nukes on hurricanes? He's way more insane now than then. Doodley 22 hrs ago #43

This sums up this lunatic MaineNative 22 hrs ago #45

I believe he wanted to, and thank goodness the military leaders are still sane enough to stop him FakeNoose 21 hrs ago #48

Kick. N/T Upthevibe 21 hrs ago #49

This doesn't pass the smell test. Jedi Guy 21 hrs ago #51

I don't think he has to ask anyone for the codes ToxMarz 21 hrs ago #56

Nuclear experts on this thread trying to convince everyone Piggy can do anything he wants any time he wants... MorbidButterflyTat 21 hrs ago #60

They are just concerned :/ johnnyfins 21 hrs ago #61

It happened in his first term also orangecrush 20 hrs ago #62

Somehow, I find the story of Trump B.See 20 hrs ago #65

That's not mental illness. progressoid 20 hrs ago #66

Larry Johnson, purveyor of Russian propaganda on Ukraine... pat_k 20 hrs ago #67

157 recs for debunked nonsense... sad. WarGamer 20 hrs ago #68

Confirmation bias is alive and well sarisataka 20 hrs ago #69

post of the year. WarGamer 19 hrs ago #72

Little harsh maybe. Smokster 18 hrs ago #74

Is it? orangecrush 16 hrs ago #78

Aren't a lot of the REC'S for the fact that someone is posting that it WAS debunked? Ol Janx Spirit 7 hrs ago #86

And Trump already has the code. RandySF 19 hrs ago #71

Does something need to be debunked if it was never more than a rumor? EdmondDantes_ 19 hrs ago #73

And 4 years from now orangecrush 16 hrs ago #77

and whose in charge of the records? Javaman 11 hrs ago #81

Yes. That story was bullshit from the start. MineralMan 8 hrs ago #85

With a mentally firm, physically healthy president, the biscuit would be on their person at almost all times. John1956PA 7 hrs ago #87

I find what was initially reported to be very plausible Cosmocat 7 hrs ago #88

It doesn't matter if he did or not. Kid Berwyn 7 hrs ago #89

They outsmsarted him (talk about a low hurdle to jump) usonian 7 hrs ago #90

He needs to be in a nursing home under 24/7 supervision. Initech 7 hrs ago #91

This is what counts as "debunked" now? maxrandb 5 hrs ago #92