General Discussion

and is energy independent, has some of the best drone technology in the world, and has the world over a barrel (of oil) in the Straits of Hormuz. North Vietnam was an agriculturally based state of some 20 million people, dependent on Chinese and Soviet technologies, that we literally "bombed into the Stone Age" early on in our air campaign against them. And still we lost that war, and something like 60,000 killed or missing and with 300,000 other casualties.

I hope we aren't the bully who pushed too hard.

And, by the way, Iran says they aren't negotiating, Trump says they are. What, in your scenario, convinces you they aren't telling the truth about negotiating, and Trump is? Fairly trusting of you given the steady stream of lies the White House loosens each and every day.