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In reply to the discussion: Young conservatives' anger at women is taking a nihilistic turn [View all]pat_k
(13,325 posts)49. What's happening with so many boys and young men is very, very troubling.
https://www.profgalloway.com/notes-on-being-a-man/
Back in November, Scott Galloway wrote a piece with some truly frighting numbers.
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Back in November, Scott Galloway wrote a piece with some truly frighting numbers.
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Five years ago my advocacy for young men sparked a hostile response. Today society is ready to have a productive dialogue, rejecting the far rights attempts to send non-white people and all women back to the 1950s and the lefts belief that young men dont have problems but are the problem. This isnt a zero-sum game. We can build on the gains women have registered over the past three decades and ensure theres room for boys and young men in the conversation. Democrats are starting to tackle the crisis, but we cant rely on prominent party leaders to drive the change. We can count on the tech industry, however, to keep supporting their massive valuations by connecting profits with the sequestration and enragement of young men. Men ages 20 to 30 now spend less time outside than prison inmates.
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. I wondered why what was happening to boys and young men was in fact happening and how I could raise my sons in a world where they and males of any age thrive.
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The data around boys and young men is overwhelming. Seldom in recent memory has there been a cohort thats fallen farther, faster. Why? First, boys face an educational system biased against them with brains that mature later than girls, they almost immediately fall behind their female classmates. Many grow up without male role models, including teachers fewer men teach K12 than there are women working in STEM fields with Black and Hispanic school instructors especially underrepresented.
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People under the age of forty are 24% less wealthy. The deliberate transfer of wealth from the young to the old in the United States over the past century has led to unaffordable and indefensible costs for education and housing and skyrocketing student debt, all of which directly affect young men. Its why twenty-five-year-olds today make less than their parents and grandparents did at the same age, while carrying debt loads unimaginable to earlier generations. Neither the minimum nor the median wage has kept pace with inflation or productivity gains, while housing costs have outpaced both. As the costs of college have soared beyond the reach of most families, many of the manufacturing jobs that didnt require a college degree and were often a ticket to the middle class for (mostly) men have been offshored. A prohibitive real estate market is a contributing factor to why 60% of young men between the ages of eighteen and twenty-four live with their parents and 1 in 5 still live with their parents at age thirty. Stuck and unable to afford greater economic opportunities in nearby cities, they find the same crush and collision of density, stimulation, humanity, creativity, eroticism, and conversation that urban areas offer on their phones instead. In Manhattan, a four-hundred-square-foot apartment costs $3,000 a month. In its stead is a seventeen-square-inch mobile studio apartment costing roughly $42 a month, served up by AT&T, T- Mobile, or Verizon
Meanwhile, algorithmically generated content on social media contributes toand profits fromyoung mens growing social isolation, boredom, and ignorance. With the deepest-pocketed firms on the planet trying to convince young men they can have a reasonable facsimile of life on a screen, many grow up without acquiring the skills to build social capital or create wealth. The percentage of young men aged twenty to twenty-four who are neither in school nor working has tripled since 1980. Workforce participation among men has fallen below 90%, caused by a lack of well-paying jobs, wage stagnation, disabilities, a mismatch of skills and/or training, and falling demand for jobs traditionally held by prime-age men.
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Heres a terrifying stat: 45% of men ages eighteen to twenty-five have never approached a woman in person. And without the guardrails of a relationship, young men behave as if they have no guardrails.
Five years ago my advocacy for young men sparked a hostile response. Today society is ready to have a productive dialogue, rejecting the far rights attempts to send non-white people and all women back to the 1950s and the lefts belief that young men dont have problems but are the problem. This isnt a zero-sum game. We can build on the gains women have registered over the past three decades and ensure theres room for boys and young men in the conversation. Democrats are starting to tackle the crisis, but we cant rely on prominent party leaders to drive the change. We can count on the tech industry, however, to keep supporting their massive valuations by connecting profits with the sequestration and enragement of young men. Men ages 20 to 30 now spend less time outside than prison inmates.
...
. I wondered why what was happening to boys and young men was in fact happening and how I could raise my sons in a world where they and males of any age thrive.
...
The data around boys and young men is overwhelming. Seldom in recent memory has there been a cohort thats fallen farther, faster. Why? First, boys face an educational system biased against them with brains that mature later than girls, they almost immediately fall behind their female classmates. Many grow up without male role models, including teachers fewer men teach K12 than there are women working in STEM fields with Black and Hispanic school instructors especially underrepresented.
...
People under the age of forty are 24% less wealthy. The deliberate transfer of wealth from the young to the old in the United States over the past century has led to unaffordable and indefensible costs for education and housing and skyrocketing student debt, all of which directly affect young men. Its why twenty-five-year-olds today make less than their parents and grandparents did at the same age, while carrying debt loads unimaginable to earlier generations. Neither the minimum nor the median wage has kept pace with inflation or productivity gains, while housing costs have outpaced both. As the costs of college have soared beyond the reach of most families, many of the manufacturing jobs that didnt require a college degree and were often a ticket to the middle class for (mostly) men have been offshored. A prohibitive real estate market is a contributing factor to why 60% of young men between the ages of eighteen and twenty-four live with their parents and 1 in 5 still live with their parents at age thirty. Stuck and unable to afford greater economic opportunities in nearby cities, they find the same crush and collision of density, stimulation, humanity, creativity, eroticism, and conversation that urban areas offer on their phones instead. In Manhattan, a four-hundred-square-foot apartment costs $3,000 a month. In its stead is a seventeen-square-inch mobile studio apartment costing roughly $42 a month, served up by AT&T, T- Mobile, or Verizon
Meanwhile, algorithmically generated content on social media contributes toand profits fromyoung mens growing social isolation, boredom, and ignorance. With the deepest-pocketed firms on the planet trying to convince young men they can have a reasonable facsimile of life on a screen, many grow up without acquiring the skills to build social capital or create wealth. The percentage of young men aged twenty to twenty-four who are neither in school nor working has tripled since 1980. Workforce participation among men has fallen below 90%, caused by a lack of well-paying jobs, wage stagnation, disabilities, a mismatch of skills and/or training, and falling demand for jobs traditionally held by prime-age men.
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Heres a terrifying stat: 45% of men ages eighteen to twenty-five have never approached a woman in person. And without the guardrails of a relationship, young men behave as if they have no guardrails.
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There is a subset of these idiots on youtube. Movies featuring women in action roles
BlueWaveNeverEnd
Friday
#4
Banning algorithms? I don't know if that is possible, but someone sets them up
travelingthrulife
Friday
#11
Most of guys I knew started bands, got into art, interacted with other humans, took up a hobby/sport,
chowder66
Friday
#16
I just watched Louis Theroux's doc on the manosphere. These men are just dripping with stupid.
Scrivener7
Friday
#10
Women make a LOT of money on OnlyFans in a SAFE environment that's different from the pron industry
New Breed Leader
Friday
#45
Whether he earns the label misolgynist is debateable, but the label does nothing to lessen how troubling the ...
pat_k
18 hrs ago
#62
I think it is debatable. Bur for the sake of argument, I'll accept your assessment.
pat_k
12 hrs ago
#64