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NNadir

(37,934 posts)
71. One of the things that makes DU great is its jury system run by the members.
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 11:00 AM
19 hrs ago

I frequently serve on juries and I try to be reasonable. I try to be reasonable when serving on MIRT.

I rarely alert myself - although I did so recently with my alert being rejected.

If I see a post that clearly identifies Fetterman or Schumer I try to be reasonable about it. I often disagree with the former and am disappointed in his tenure, greatly disappointed. As for the latter, of course even considering that I consider myself to not be far left, I would prefer AOC in his seat, but concede he knows the ropes. Experience sometimes counts.

I draw the line when someone announces that they will not vote for the Democrat because of x, y or z issue. We saw that in the disastrous last election with respect to the tragedy of Gaza. The results are in for that affectation. It didn't quite work out as the anti-Biden/Harris types might have thought. Gaza may end up as a resort for billionaires built on the graves of former inhabitants.

There's constructive criticism and there's vitriol. Hopefully, we can distinguish the difference. I am not happy with every Democrat. If I lived in Massachusetts, I would vote for Ed Markey although I deplore his views on addressing the climate tragedy. If I lived in PA and Fetterman was the nominee, I'd have to vote for him. If however if Fetterman or Schumer were primaried, I would not object and would view criticism of them in that vein as fair.

I believe some criticism of our leaders is justified, and I trust my fellow DUers to stand in judgment of what crosses the line. I say this as a long term veteran of this space who has been dinged many times for my views.

I hope my comments and my votes on juries are fair. We all have to be balanced and try to remain under control of ourselves in what are clearly the worst times our nation has seen in nearly a century. It's difficult but it can be done.

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it's better to criticize specific behaviors instead of general dislike msongs Thursday #1
Yes. Criticizing after a specific vote, action, comment seems fair game... hlthe2b Thursday #4
You seem to have missed the point of the question. niyad Thursday #6
Well, I've seen some sanity applied to that rule. I've yet to see comments about Fetterman hlthe2b Thursday #2
Oh, they are being alerted on, which is what led to my question. niyad Thursday #7
Do you know if they are being hidden? I've made some careful critiques of public figures based on hlthe2b Thursday #10
The few with which I am familiar have not been hidden that I know of. niyad Thursday #16
Fetterman's current voting record soldierant Yesterday #36
I know several Republicans--each of whom worship Trump while denying it... Orrex Yesterday #61
EXCELLENT!!! niyad 21 hrs ago #64
They are alerted FoxNewsSucks Yesterday #43
Schumer, the Dem leader whom presided in the Senate over ALL of Biden's historic legislative accomplishments? bigtree 20 hrs ago #70
I don't disagree. The point is that I don't think expressing disagreement with a vote, comment or hlthe2b 17 hrs ago #78
One OP about him was definitely alerted on yesterday senseandsensibility 18 hrs ago #76
And how does that rule apply to people who call themselves Democrats Bluetus Thursday #3
That's a great question leftstreet Thursday #5
Thank you. niyad 21 hrs ago #65
Well, when a supposedly registered democrat goes on Fox News and accuses us of "Trump Derangement Syndrome"... Initech Thursday #8
I presume you mean Fetterman.... RussBLib Thursday #9
You are quite correct. I wish I could say I was shocked by that remark, niyad Thursday #13
Sometimes you have to put up with it, other times not Pototan Yesterday #51
From your keyboard to the ultimate administrator! niyad 21 hrs ago #66
He certainly votes with Republicans now. ananda Thursday #14
Some people on this board who have known him for a long time say niyad Thursday #19
That wouldn't surprise me at all. ananda Thursday #20
Contemporary media can play mind games jfz9580m Yesterday #48
I used to blame the stroke but now don't think so MustLoveBeagles 19 hrs ago #72
I've been trendng that way too. ananda 19 hrs ago #74
I remember when bashing the then God Garland would get you in trouble here yaesu Thursday #11
Garland isn't a Democrat, though, LuvLoogie Thursday #15
LOL, who cares yaesu Yesterday #28
Right on ABC123Easy 17 hrs ago #80
Reasonable question. yellow dahlia Thursday #12
Huh? The rule about not bashing Democrats is clearly (almost) never enforced. Wiz Imp Thursday #17
I specifically asked about Democratic officials bashing us. niyad Thursday #22
???? Wiz Imp Yesterday #59
Exactly. MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #30
Never Cirsium Yesterday #53
Some people see even mild criticism as Bettie Yesterday #58
jury nullification. mopinko Thursday #18
I think there is a Blue_Roses Thursday #21
I've been dinged ...even though I am very careful.. Bread and Circuses Thursday #23
I am not criticizing the jury system, which has worked remarkably niyad Yesterday #27
I know. I simply wanted to support the DU management 🌷 Bread and Circuses Yesterday #29
F Fetterman? SSJVegeta Yesterday #24
Are there other Dem officials bashing us? Not sure I can handle more. niyad Yesterday #35
F Fetterman SSJVegeta 22 hrs ago #62
Good question. LoisB Yesterday #25
EarlG already adressed this question. He said that the rule is not absolute regarding obvious Democrats not acting in .. marble falls Yesterday #26
I obviously missed that in the ongoing onslaught of horrors, but I niyad Yesterday #31
If they are off Democratic Party ideals and the criticism is specifically about issues and not about personal stuff ... marble falls Yesterday #33
Thank you. I am running out of poppets. niyad Yesterday #34
I assume this is in regards to Fetterman JMCKUSICK Yesterday #32
None for me, apparently. Iggo Yesterday #37
That is one reason I like my poppets! niyad Yesterday #38
What's a Poppet, lol JMCKUSICK Yesterday #40
Known in some circles as voodoo dolls. Which reminds me, I need more pins. niyad Yesterday #42
That's funny, I have the New Orleans Voodoo Tarot Card deck lol JMCKUSICK Yesterday #55
That is one I do not have in my collection. Will have to check it out. niyad 21 hrs ago #67
That and the Witches Tarot are the two decks that JMCKUSICK 19 hrs ago #73
It is always wonderful when one connects so deeply with a deck. I have used niyad 12 hrs ago #82
... Celerity Yesterday #57
VERRRRRY NICE!!! niyad 21 hrs ago #68
They need their feet held to the fire. Blue Full Moon Yesterday #39
Or possibly other portions of their anatomies! niyad Yesterday #44
I don't know, y'all, but I think we're working with a pretty nebulous term LearnedHand Yesterday #41
Some very good points. niyad Yesterday #45
Wording and context are important. Aussie105 Yesterday #46
Hard to do when one is disappointed in their entire existence. niyad Yesterday #47
Voting matters Ialwaysvote Yesterday #49
All true, but that does not address the question I asked. niyad Yesterday #50
Yeah, I think it does. Ialwaysvote Yesterday #54
"But what options are available when a Democratic official is bashing us?" LudwigPastorius Yesterday #52
The TOS As Written Are Clear. ColoringFool Yesterday #56
Great question malaise Yesterday #60
From a completely practical perspective. Prairie_Seagull 22 hrs ago #63
Good morning. Then poppets it is!!! niyad 21 hrs ago #69
As others have already indicated Prairie_Seagull 17 hrs ago #77
One of the things that makes DU great is its jury system run by the members. NNadir 19 hrs ago #71
I generally have no problem with our jury system, and I have been on many niyad 11 hrs ago #83
The posters and juries here have a pretty good feel for when rogue officials are NOT with the party Takket 19 hrs ago #75
Fetterman ABC123Easy 17 hrs ago #79
Let's look at the rule. Bluetus 14 hrs ago #81
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