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20. And you know this how? Please explain Iran's dramatically improved performance over the 12 Day War. It's

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drones alone are significantly upgraded in their electronics and 5 F-15's have gone down. If you believe one Kuwaiti pilot fracked up and caused 3 of these, I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I'll give you a good price on. If it was "friendly fire", it was likely caused by electronic jamming and interference of IFOF signals -- an indication of "help" from big brothers with world class tech -- not to mention the very expensive US surveillance drones that have gone missing over Iran. They did this once or twice before with Predator or Reaper type drones, but only under near perfect conditions. They are doing it regularly.

The "limited help" meme is being pushed by war propagandists who want the American public to think Iran will be on its last legs soon so just give the Pentagon time to win this. Don't buy it.

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We're in deep, deep trouble. It's very unlikely that we win this war [View all] 3_Limes Saturday OP

No worries. The Trump show will move to Cuba shortly. dalton99a Saturday #1

Regarding "boots on the ground": could be the most laughingstock military catastrophe of all time Tetrachloride Saturday #2

I guess UpInArms Saturday #6

and then we jumped right into Vietnam RussBLib Saturday #9

Do you mean the Korean CONFLICT? maddiemom Saturday #57

Of course UpInArms Saturday #67

Islamic Revolutionary Guard suicide squads vs. Christian Warfighters led by the athletic and highly fit Major Hegseth dalton99a Saturday #7

If only we could limit our troops on the front lines to the christian nationalists and christofascists Jerry2144 Saturday #49

Like The Charge of the Light Brigade? ananda Saturday #12

"Deadline: White House" was brilliant yesterday Ilsa Saturday #3

It was never intended... 2naSalit Saturday #4

This is exactly what I've been thinking es466 Saturday #53

He really knows nothing about most things PatSeg Saturday #5

Stephen Miller, the tech oligarchs and the "Last Days" Nutrider Christian Evangelicals. /nt artemisia1 Saturday #16

We need to hang this on the Republican Party. yardwork Saturday #30

So many choices PatSeg Saturday #33

Trump is itching to use nukes... JCMach1 Saturday #8

He's talked about it over the years, and do think he likes the idea of pushing that button. 3_Limes Saturday #10

Do you really think Hegseth wouldn't jump at that chance to show what a real man he is? Lonestarblue Saturday #64

+1. This is what the idiot had in mind: dalton99a Saturday #11

No way!! Not nearly humiliating enough for his taste. 3_Limes Saturday #18

I was just there on that spot in January. ProudMNDemocrat Saturday #40

Thank you for this post. Evolve Dammit Saturday #45

I don't think you're crazy Renew Deal Saturday #69

Iran is also backed by TWO superpowers, both with significant industrial capacity and a much larger ability to artemisia1 Saturday #13

They're backed with words and limited intel ability... WarGamer Saturday #17

And you know this how? Please explain Iran's dramatically improved performance over the 12 Day War. It's artemisia1 Saturday #20

I think both Russia and China have strong motivations to aid Iran. 3_Limes Saturday #25

.... :) Tetrachloride Saturday #42

Tx. 3_Limes Saturday #47

Why would they need more soldiers? NickB79 Saturday #27

And motivated to bog the US down in a Vietnam like quagmire (just like the US did to the Soviet Union in Afghanistan Strelnikov_ Saturday #23

Exactly. Add to that the strategic location, resources and transit routes for the "Belt and Road" initiative and you artemisia1 Saturday #24

Just not reality... Iran has pissed off all it's neighbors and is left only with Russia and China WarGamer Saturday #14

I disagree 3_Limes Saturday #31

When it comes to Iran, they could do enormous damage to us with cyberattacks and we know they're capable of it. Vinca Saturday #15

We will win Whip-poor-will Saturday #19

IMHO, the geurilla campain following regulat military actions will go for years and be 3_Limes Saturday #22

Trump already said Iran 'surrendered' pfitz59 Saturday #21

Our only hope is for Trump to find a face-saving offramp -- if his handlers allow it. /nt artemisia1 Saturday #26

500,000 troops just to get started. LuvLoogie Saturday #28

That's why J think we lose. The US public is not gonna go for send 500k soldiers overseas for any reason. 3_Limes Saturday #32

I shared that thought with another poster on a different thread in DU Dan Saturday #34

TSF doesn't even comprehend the VALUE of learning from other experiences RandomNumbers Saturday #29

The US is challenged, but not necessarily for all of the reasons you mentioned Renew Deal Saturday #35

Good perspective, but - 3_Limes Saturday #39

I agree Renew Deal Saturday #41

The longer it lasts, The Madcap Saturday #58

This make more sense to me. Views of US are already hostile and history should have been enough of a warning Deuxcents Saturday #59

Bombing stuff means more $ for MIC donors to Trump & GOP, so yeah lots of bombing stuff Attilatheblond Saturday #66

Hidden backdoors in Chinese manufactured devices have already been found Renew Deal Saturday #68

Doesn't understand, doesn't want to understand, doesn't care that he doesn't understand. tanyev Saturday #36

AKA, DEMENTED. We Are "Governed" By The Cuckoo's Nest. ColoringFool Saturday #50

Trump never learns anything. He governs by whim. City Lights Saturday #37

I posted something similar on my FB timeline. ProudMNDemocrat Saturday #38

First thing to remember... Hope22 Saturday #43

We're not supposed to win it. Aristus Saturday #44

+1 dalton99a Saturday #65

If US troops are expected to go in, then Israeli troops should also be on the ground in Iran. ChicagoTeamster Saturday #46

Just A Picked Nit: Israel Has A Stellar "W-L" War Record..... ColoringFool Saturday #51

I know. I'm very familiar with the wars from 48 through the 73 Yom Kippur war. But destabilizing the entire region is ChicagoTeamster Saturday #60

Well, pardon my new picked nit: Iran is not an Arab country; hence, no "other." ColoringFool Saturday #71

I know, they're Persian. And they weren't involved in the Arab Israeli wars. The shah maintained covert ties with Israel ChicagoTeamster 22 hrs ago #73

Netanyahu ruled out Israeli troops in 2002 per Congressman. "You have to do it" vanessa_ca Saturday #70

We're "Involved" Like Hitler Was "Involved." WE ARE THE AGGRESSOR, AND DESERVE .... ColoringFool Saturday #48

General Paul Eaton said the US does not have sufficient ground troops for a land war in Iran. surfered Saturday #52

Iranians hate their government. Xolodno Saturday #54

Our credibility is shot because there's no consistency to our approach or actions with them. There's no trust Deuxcents Saturday #62

Well, it doesn't help that "win" has no fixed definition for The Dotard or his minions. RockRaven Saturday #55

Some of you are forgetting, *rump is not trying to do good. questionseverything Saturday #56

A Guy In The Bar The Other Night Quipped......... BBbats Saturday #61

Add it to the list. paleotn Saturday #63

Unlikely my fat ass. There is NO way in hell that the US wins this war. Ferrets are Cool Saturday #72