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In reply to the discussion: The cover of The Lancet, and their article on RFK Jr. [View all]highplainsdem
(63,149 posts)48. While you were posting that, I was looking for an article to explain to anyone who hadn't tried AI image
generators just how little control over what's generated the AI user has.
One striking comment I found was from an AI user who actually sells some AI art.
This was posted in the Adobe Community forum:
https://community.adobe.com/questions-38/too-many-rejected-ai-generated-images-lately-327849?postid=5992190#post5992190
Very poor quality. Are you using a custom model? Can you output at a higher resolution? Even then, expect to spend far longer correcting/editing/cleaning things up in Photoshop than you ever would in building/working the prompt. I sell a *lot* of AI images, but of course I generate 200-300+ for each one that I feel is worth working on, and even after editing only submit less than half I've done any kind of postprocessing on.
Emphasis added.
The most relevant words there are "of course" - and no one there expressed shock because they knew how many extra images were generated, each request for more using more electricity and water to cool data centers.
DUers probably don't realize that almost every piece of AI-generated art they see anywhere has a long, unseen trail of rejected images behind it, and even the best often needs a lot of correcting, because the AI user has so little control.
Here's a detailed article that goes into those problems with lack of control:
https://www.nngroup.com/articles/ai-imagegen-stages/
After defining their goal, participants used the tool to generate images. The exploration phase typically involved creating many images (anywhere from 20 to 80 images), to increase the likelihood that one image aligns with their vision enough.
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This technique involves repeating the same prompt to exhaust the possibilities related to one creative direction. Due to the inherent randomness of the AI image-generation algorithm, this practice resulted in many variations of the same concept, allowing people to choose what they liked best.
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One study participant wanted to create an image of a steampunk-themed sofa. After multiple iterations, she got an image of a sofa she was happy with but wanted to change the upholstery from plain to striped. This edit proved difficult, as the appearance of the sofa would change every time she tried to make an adjustment, due to the randomness of the AI tool.
Changing small details of an AI-generated image can be an arduous, time-consuming task. Participants often experience frustration due to the lack of user control (usability heuristic #3) inherent to current AI image-generation tools. Unlike traditional image-processing software, these tools offer limited support for fine adjustments, which means users end up fighting against the AI to achieve desired outcomes. Consequently, users frequently end up dissatisfied as the final images often fall short of perfection.
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This technique involves repeating the same prompt to exhaust the possibilities related to one creative direction. Due to the inherent randomness of the AI image-generation algorithm, this practice resulted in many variations of the same concept, allowing people to choose what they liked best.
-snip-
One study participant wanted to create an image of a steampunk-themed sofa. After multiple iterations, she got an image of a sofa she was happy with but wanted to change the upholstery from plain to striped. This edit proved difficult, as the appearance of the sofa would change every time she tried to make an adjustment, due to the randomness of the AI tool.
Changing small details of an AI-generated image can be an arduous, time-consuming task. Participants often experience frustration due to the lack of user control (usability heuristic #3) inherent to current AI image-generation tools. Unlike traditional image-processing software, these tools offer limited support for fine adjustments, which means users end up fighting against the AI to achieve desired outcomes. Consequently, users frequently end up dissatisfied as the final images often fall short of perfection.
Again, emphasis added.
Real artists don't have that lack of control. AI users do.
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Please don't post AI art made using AI tools trained illegally on stolen intellectual property. AI slop
highplainsdem
Feb 27
#18
You know how I feel about how unethical genAI is. If you post AI slop in response to an OP I posted, I
highplainsdem
Feb 27
#40
What's generated by AI is not the AI user's art. I've tried AI image generators myself enough to know
highplainsdem
Feb 27
#43
While you were posting that, I was looking for an article to explain to anyone who hadn't tried AI image
highplainsdem
Feb 27
#48
AI slop just wastes water and electricity. And it isn't ususual for users of AI image generators to
highplainsdem
Feb 28
#80
You're baiting me, posting AI slop in this thread. I've helped you out when you posted misinformation
highplainsdem
Feb 28
#83
It isn't stalking you to notice you've started posting AI slop. I pointed out to you yesterday that when you
highplainsdem
Feb 28
#90
We don't have to accept what's wrong with it. Including unethical AI tools trained illegally on stolen
highplainsdem
Feb 28
#79
Would you eat at McDonald's if the business was built entirely on theft, as genAI is?
highplainsdem
Feb 28
#84
Not comparable. Unless forced by work or school, no one has to use genAI. But thanks for letting
highplainsdem
Feb 28
#87
And btw, if you want to know why so many people hate it, I suggest you go to Bluesky and post
highplainsdem
Feb 28
#86
😊We're An Inclusive Big Tent😊 -- One Person's 'AI SLOP' Is Another Person's Assisted Artistic Endeavor
MayReasonRule
Feb 28
#78
There are a lot of artists who are actually disabled who hate AI art, who've had some success as
highplainsdem
Feb 28
#92
Of all the clowns in the clown car, RFK Jr is the one who will do the most long-term damage in this shit show.
Initech
Feb 27
#8
They're evil and incompetent, but they're not smart enough to be James Bond villains.
highplainsdem
Feb 27
#19
The main qualification for an HHS Secretary is to listen to scientists, not to assume...
NNadir
Feb 27
#16
RFK Jr. was put at the head of HHS, so that he would destroy all these programs and so trump could take that money
MLWR
Feb 27
#9
That's the same link I posted, and doesn't work directly from DU either because DU's software won't
highplainsdem
Feb 27
#20
Yes, I saw, and posted a thank you, and mentioned both your replies in the edited OP.
highplainsdem
Feb 27
#27
It's chilling to note that the word "promised" appears repeatedly in the passage shown.
CBHagman
Feb 27
#21
They all are. The Trump regime would be one of the craziest sitcoms ever if the characters were just
highplainsdem
Feb 27
#30
Yeah, he sure would be ashamed of the ignorant fool who's playing with people's health. 🙁
Dave Bowman
Feb 27
#57
If it wasn't RFK Jr it would have been another clown like Dr. Oz or some Covid Conspiracy nut
maxsolomon
Feb 27
#29
Look up "HTML encoding" to fix links that break like this in the future if you want :)
AZJonnie
Feb 27
#31
Secretary Brainworm's thing about "shared decision making" for vaccines really irks me.
3catwoman3
Feb 27
#39
There is no surprise about anything Kennedy does. Those that confirmed him have no excuse.
Doodley
Feb 27
#53
Getting rid of people who might be on Social Security, Medicaid, or any government program repukes
highplainsdem
Feb 27
#63
They assume they'll still have good medical care. That mostly the poor will suffer and die.
highplainsdem
Feb 27
#65
Most self-professed Christians I know don't follow Christ's teachings very well, either.
highplainsdem
Feb 27
#69