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H2O Man

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36. Great question!
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 04:30 PM
Feb 23

It would take me hours upon hours to fully answer that! Boxing is a corrupt sport, always has been, always will be. And it goes beyond mis-matches and bad decisions. I'll give but two examples that you might find interesting. Keep in mind that my Uncle David was a BCI Senior Investigator who often coordinated with the FBI in investigating organized crime -- which exercised control of the sport from the amateurs to the professionals.

My brothers & I frequented a gym in an area city. The fighters, managers, and promoters that were there knew we were David's nephews. I remember one saying, "Hey, Tom, what's up with your Uncle David? Tell him that we treat you well." And they did. Then, they had a fighter who fought on the undercard of the Fight of the Century ask if he could stay at our house, while he worked construction thirty miles away. We didn't stop to think about all the motels in that 30-mile stretch other workers were staying at!

This guy was at the time a top sparring partner for Jerry Quarry and Oscar Bonavena. We were hay seeds. He did teach us a lot, and we had a great time in the weeks he stayed with us. It was only years later that I learned from an associate of the owners of the construction company that the boxer had been tasked with getting my brother -- a vicious fighter -- to work as muscle to attack union leaders. They said if they had Tom, it would be like having David's balls in their hands. But he told the owners he couldn't, because staying at our house reminded him of being on the set of "The Waltons."

When my other brother and I took our seats at ringside for the second Ali vs Frazier fight, we saw the owners of that construction firm up at the ring. My brother got along well with them, and went up and chatted with the pair. A couple months later, the brothers were behind bars, facing state and federal charges, for which they were convicted. Of course, my brothers and I thought, "Darn you, Uncle David! They treat us nice!"

Another former world champion from a more distance city offered my brother a 10-year contract, sight unseen. He had heard of my brother fighting in his city, and he used to fight on cards my great Uncle Pat promoted. My brothers & I thought we were reaching the Big Time. But my father had Uncle David check the ex-champ's status, which ranked fairly high in the mob. So no deal!

I could go on and on. But corruption saturates the sport, and capitalizes on the ignorance of fighters.

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The Wobble [View all] H2O Man Feb 22 OP
I will fully admit True Dough Feb 22 #1
Ali! H2O Man Feb 22 #3
Watch the movie on HBO ... aggiesal Feb 23 #32
Ditto malaise Feb 22 #9
People starting to call him a lame duck Saoirse9 Feb 22 #2
Neal Katyal H2O Man Feb 22 #4
Looks like his chin is going up and multigraincracker Feb 22 #5
Right! H2O Man Feb 22 #6
Hey, I can dream, can't I? calimary Feb 22 #25
K&R orangecrush Feb 22 #7
Thanks! H2O Man Feb 22 #14
Great OP malaise Feb 22 #8
Yeah! H2O Man Feb 22 #13
figurative and literally. mercuryblues Feb 22 #15
Now that would be malaise Feb 22 #17
I would do it myself mercuryblues Feb 22 #18
I'm betting you're way ahead of me malaise Feb 22 #19
You're BOTH ahead of me. calimary Feb 22 #26
The technology left me malaise Feb 23 #29
A beautiful idea! H2O Man Feb 22 #22
Hoping Rethugs "have the wisdom to make the right choice?"... excuse my language NoMoreRepugs Feb 22 #10
As I noted, H2O Man Feb 22 #12
jejeje Maj. Dude Feb 22 #11
His puckered face H2O Man Feb 22 #21
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" Mike Tyson Mosby Feb 22 #16
Right! H2O Man Feb 22 #23
OOOOOOooooooh, that's a GOOD one, Mosby! calimary Feb 22 #27
I knew a Wobbles Once Upon a Time in the West Kid Berwyn Feb 22 #20
Thank you! H2O Man Feb 22 #24
OMG!!! calimary Feb 22 #28
If only politics were as honest and predictable a game as boxing. malthaussen Feb 23 #30
Great question! H2O Man Feb 23 #36
Thanks! I'd love to hoist a few with you some time and hear the stories you left out. malthaussen Feb 23 #38
One of the things H2O Man Feb 23 #39
America is getting very angry and turning into the hulk Blue Owl Feb 23 #31
Thank you! H2O Man Feb 23 #37
I certainly hope you're right. On the other hand, the United States Constitution is certainly wobbling. The corrupt... NNadir Feb 23 #33
Right. H2O Man Feb 23 #40
Best essay I've read all week Wild blueberry Feb 23 #34
Thank you! H2O Man Feb 23 #41
You made a great call and now a great analogy GenThePerservering Feb 23 #35
The other two fellows H2O Man Feb 23 #42
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