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MadameButterfly

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100. We have the same goal, I just think it's important to see these two issues separately

Tue Feb 17, 2026, 08:33 AM

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The people fighting campaign finance reform are the billionaires and corporations.

The people fighting term limits are more varied. Some are incumbents wanting to stay in power. Some are people who believe that once we get rid of most incumbents, the oligarchy will have all the power. Before all these 70+ year old incumbents got elected we didn't have Citizens United. It could be rough when they go.

Some who oppose term limits are people who value the experience and expertise of people who have been in office for a while. Who want it to be worth it for the best and brightest to make a career of serving in Congress; worth the effort to fund-raise and risk losing it all the next go round for a chance at staying around long enough to have a make a difference.

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Please, stop with the TERM LIMITS bs. [View all] 4bonhoffer Yesterday OP

You are so right. Americanme Yesterday #1

That's a good point Conjuay Yesterday #2

Same! EuterpeThelo Yesterday #9

re: "Agreed we should primary those who aren't effective" thesquanderer Yesterday #54

I agree with you. Its ridiculous. Callie1979 20 hrs ago #75

100% Right on! NT CommonHumanity Yesterday #3

I think that the longer someone stays in politics, the more likely they have convictions. everyonematters Yesterday #4

Yes, or to feather their nest, lately that's the goal Walleye Yesterday #6

The problem is that the LACK of term limits is what allows members of Congress to gain more seniority, pnwmom 15 hrs ago #90

I agree 100%, besides it's unconstitutional, not that that matters anymore Walleye Yesterday #5

How is it unconstitutional? iemanja 18 hrs ago #85

The Constitution sets the qualification for representatives and senators. TomSlick 17 hrs ago #88

Ok iemanja 14 hrs ago #94

I asked Google, they gave the specific Supreme Court case Walleye 7 hrs ago #98

Term limits who have deprived us . . Michiblue Yesterday #7

There are just as many good reasons for term limits as there are bad ones. sop Yesterday #8

+1 leftstreet Yesterday #35

We need campaign finance reform MadameButterfly Yesterday #37

Because they are two sides of the same bright, shiny coin. Maru Kitteh Yesterday #65

i also object to the party putting thumbs on the scale to promote the leadership's MadameButterfly 23 hrs ago #67

I agree with that. I guess I was primarily speaking to the poster's Maru Kitteh 18 hrs ago #83

We have the same goal, I just think it's important to see these two issues separately MadameButterfly 5 hrs ago #100

This message was self-deleted by its author Maru Kitteh 20 hrs ago #76

Bingo. See reply at #39 harumph Yesterday #46

How about putting the other changes in place MadameButterfly 22 hrs ago #68

They WHERE CALLED ELECTIONS now they are called how do we screw the voters and keep them from voting. usaf-vet Yesterday #10

which, of course - doesn't address the subject (or point made) in the OP in the slightest ... - - -(nt)- stopdiggin Yesterday #43

I agree PatSeg Yesterday #11

we need real term limits..two terms and out... agingdem Yesterday #12

Even for the House, where each term is only 2 years? ShazzieB 4 hrs ago #101

I've been preaching this for years. Not to mention the revolving door to lobbying would accelerate... themaguffin Yesterday #13

Term limits are aniicemocratic. If they've been there too long vote em out. tirebiter Yesterday #14

There are so many things that need to be reformed before we can even consider term limits ibegurpard Yesterday #15

Preach! ybbor Yesterday #16

The problem is gerrymandering, not term limits. Emile Yesterday #17

I've been arguing against term limits for years. Martin Eden Yesterday #18

Very difficult to overcome incumbent name recognition MichMan 19 hrs ago #81

Every citizen should recognize the name of their representative in the House and both senators Martin Eden 17 hrs ago #87

I believe name recognition is a significant factor for many voters MichMan 15 hrs ago #91

And THAT is why our representative democracy is so dysfunctional Martin Eden 15 hrs ago #93

Totally agree DownriverDem Yesterday #19

I'll take it a step further Polybius Yesterday #20

let's hold off until trump is out. We don't need to give him even more incentive to fuck things up. themaguffin Yesterday #22

He's more unpopular than ever now though Polybius Yesterday #23

Obama isn't going to run. Getting past this shit show is priority 1 themaguffin Yesterday #61

at this point - cab67 22 hrs ago #70

100% agree. The best argument against term limits is this question: Pototan Yesterday #21

I like that analogy. tinrobot Yesterday #29

No question homegirl 17 hrs ago #89

Yes! radical noodle Yesterday #24

If elections define one's term . . . otchmoson Yesterday #25

it just empowers staffers. mopinko Yesterday #26

Yes, because it's important to have octogenerians driving our culture relayerbob Yesterday #27

Thank you. We need to fix election financing, gerrymandering, and the electoral college. tinrobot Yesterday #28

I would make one exception - cab67 Yesterday #30

there is no way to remove Supreme Court justices ibegurpard Yesterday #32

Please stop telling people what to consider/debate Mysterian Yesterday #31

How about for SCOTUS? CaptainTruth Yesterday #33

The voters NEVER got a choice there stopdiggin Yesterday #52

Yes, clearly. And I still think it makes sense to have term limits for SCOTUS. CaptainTruth Yesterday #60

I'm in favor of 8 years for SC Justices LogDog75 21 hrs ago #71

Interesting. Thanks for sharing! CaptainTruth 19 hrs ago #80

I agree with you and add this point: Mr. Mustard 2023 Yesterday #34

Make them fill out job applications leftstreet Yesterday #36

What we need is campaign finance reform Beausoleil Yesterday #38

I used to be in the no term limits camp - not anymore. harumph Yesterday #39

except that 'term limits' doesn't really address any of the aggrievements you have with the system stopdiggin Yesterday #49

I think we need an age limit for service Mosby Yesterday #40

You are right. I was so impressed with our Dems in Congress during the Ghislaine Bondi hearings this past weekend Maraya1969 Yesterday #41

I believe in term limits. Layzeebeaver Yesterday #42

Term limits has always been the province of the low brow, bumper sticker mentality stopdiggin Yesterday #44

Term limits don't solve a single problem. Its a populist slogan that adds zero value to anything. FascismIsDeath Yesterday #45

I'm a believer in term limits. However, back during the Gingrich days, the repugs talked term limits until they got Wonder Why Yesterday #47

Do you favor repeal of the 22nd amendment? n/t Shrek Yesterday #48

Both that and the age-baiting arguments have too many flaws Torchlight Yesterday #50

We already have term limits: the voting cycle. Get the vote out. Stop accepting your vote means nothing ... marble falls Yesterday #51

Florida is the poster child for the corrupting influence of term limits. hay rick Yesterday #53

B I.N.G.O. markodochartaigh Yesterday #57

I disagree ABC123Easy Yesterday #55

In my opinion - cab67 22 hrs ago #69

You may be able to pass laws to limit partisan gerrymandering, BUT . . . markpkessinger 21 hrs ago #73

Agreed! ABC123Easy 19 hrs ago #82

It doesn't solve it for the Senate The Revolution 12 hrs ago #97

WHY IS NOBODY SAYING the bottom line. markodochartaigh Yesterday #56

Example: what if Chris Murphy of Adam Schiff were ALBliberal Yesterday #58

I am with you on this. pandr32 Yesterday #59

Agreed, for additional reasons: Exp Yesterday #62

Nationalization of politics, blaming those crooks off in Washington, Drain the Swamp. But not their own reps! betsuni Yesterday #63

Completely agree! MatthewStLouis Yesterday #64

Agree completely. Term limits are really just a limit on Democracy. It's telling voters they can't have their chosen tritsofme Yesterday #66

I favor term limits for Executive offices and Supreme Courts LogDog75 21 hrs ago #72

Sorry I still support an Amendment for term limits. Lifetime seats have gotten ridiculous. Callie1979 20 hrs ago #74

Dingell family from Detroit area MichMan 15 hrs ago #92

Perfect example. I wasnt aware of John Sr; 93 YEARS!!?? This is exactly the problem. Callie1979 6 hrs ago #99

Citizen's United is the "corporate wet dream" that term limits, well, limits Dave says 20 hrs ago #77

I whole heartedly agree 👍 Figarosmom 20 hrs ago #78

Agreed! People only want term limits when the don't like who's in office. JohnnyRingo 20 hrs ago #79

Why is it that people think they have a right to censors others' posts and thoughts iemanja 18 hrs ago #84

Censoring posts and thoughts happens every day here Shrek 4 hrs ago #102

Can we at least change the presidential term limit to 1 week for this presidency only? mdbl 18 hrs ago #86

Term limits are stupid AncientOfDays 13 hrs ago #95

I absolutely support term limits and age limits for government. No more geriatric politicians. Melon 13 hrs ago #96