Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

TommyT139

(2,280 posts)
38. Not correct.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 02:33 PM
Feb 16

Please see where I already stated that people should pay child support, the sentence that ends with "duh." That was to set that as a baseline. No need for foul language.

It is not true that someone who had at one time the documents needed to obtain a passport would be able to present them for purposes of voting. For one category of voters, it rules out the vast majority of the trans people I know. Rules for obtaining correct passports have drastically changed over the years, and that was even before the "Real ID" version of document fascism entered the picture. I am sure there are other groups -- for instance, many people whose lives have been upended by fire and flood would be able to get a new passport, but not the original documents.

I simply see no reason to connect having a valid passport -- the basic document of citizenship, whether one likes it or not -- to the entirely separate matter of complying with child support. (Whoever is in power in Washington.) And to hand over this expansion of control to the Trumpists gives them another weapon to use against people.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Whoa leftstreet Feb 12 #1
Quotas, people! UpInArms Feb 12 #2
You are OK with people not paying to support their children? MichMan Feb 12 #9
No ... UpInArms Feb 12 #10
How is not issuing a US Passport sending someone away? MichMan Feb 12 #11
Revoking passports UpInArms Feb 12 #13
Deadbeat Parents Punishment Act of 1998 passed the House 402-16 and was unanimous in the Senate MichMan Feb 12 #14
No UpInArms Feb 12 #15
What does any of that have to do with having a passport though? MichMan Feb 12 #16
Nevermind UpInArms Feb 12 #17
Ummm... revoking passports is noit deportation. I'm confused. Happy Hoosier Feb 12 #19
A mis-understanding of terms, VISA revoked... GJGCA Feb 16 #24
These are US citizens, revoking their passports just means they can't leave the country EX500rider Feb 16 #31
I don't think you understand how this legislation works. Lifeafter70 Feb 16 #39
Keep pretending that fence was to keep people out! ret5hd Feb 12 #3
Our plan is to retire abroad Johnny2X2X Feb 16 #22
If you depend on Traildogbob Feb 16 #29
"SS, Sate retirement or Vet benefits, that ain't going with you" nonsense EX500rider Feb 16 #32
You think it will exist! Traildogbob Feb 16 #35
People who owe child support should pay that before taking trips abroad, I am fine with it EX500rider Feb 16 #33
just keep pretending... ret5hd Feb 16 #36
Pretending what? States already revoke DL's over non-payment, Passports are a good addition IMO EX500rider Feb 16 #42
that it won't be you soon. ret5hd Feb 16 #44
I don't owe any child support so not worried, thanks though EX500rider Feb 16 #45
So you think there is some secret plan to deny passports to people? To what end? EX500rider Feb 16 #46
no, not secret at all. why did you ask that? ret5hd Feb 16 #51
Well there is a plan to deny passports to people behind in child support yes that is known EX500rider Feb 16 #54
only the worst of the worst... ret5hd Feb 16 #56
Bad law enforcement shoots does not equal "come for us" in my book, YMMV EX500rider Feb 16 #62
I'm not pretending Lifeafter70 Feb 16 #55
What about offenders who won't pay their fines? C_U_L8R Feb 12 #4
Good! Greg_In_SF Feb 12 #5
Apply it evenly and fairly, or do not apply it Torchlight Feb 12 #6
How is not issuing a passport removing people from their homes and neighborhoods? MichMan Feb 12 #7
It will be a tool to remove 'undesirables' Torchlight Feb 12 #8
Still not understanding how taking away a Passport is removing anyone? MichMan Feb 12 #12
I supported this legislation before it passed Lifeafter70 Feb 16 #30
Well, if they are removed Greg_In_SF Feb 12 #18
if they revoked my passport it would keep me here, not remove me eShirl Feb 16 #26
Lots of people don't have passports, it does not "remove people from their homes, neighborhoods and nation" EX500rider Feb 16 #34
They don't even have to be totally caught up Lifeafter70 Feb 16 #52
If revoking passports means a person cannot vote TommyT139 Feb 15 #20
There are other forms of ID besides Passports MichMan Feb 16 #21
Not correct. TommyT139 Feb 16 #38
"... having a valid passport -- the basic document of citizenship" That would be your birth certificate, not passport EX500rider Feb 16 #43
Not for thousands of Americans TommyT139 Feb 16 #47
Birth cert + marriage license EX500rider Feb 16 #48
From what I heard, usedtobedemgurl Feb 16 #59
Deadbeat Parents Punishment Act of 1998 passed the House 402-16 and was unanimous in the Senate MichMan Feb 16 #60
Exactly! usedtobedemgurl Feb 16 #61
Given my druthers, I think those evading court ordered child support should be sent to jail on a work release program MichMan Feb 16 #58
TIL there are DUers who do not know what passports are, what they do, and how they work nt Dreamer Tatum Feb 16 #23
That is clearly the case, given the responses in this thread. MineralMan Feb 16 #25
Me too TommyT139 Feb 16 #40
So... Elon Musk is top of the list, right? SSJVegeta Feb 16 #27
I was just about to ask that. The Madcap Feb 16 #28
Does he owe child support? That would be surprising. nt Dreamer Tatum Feb 16 #49
Allegedly SSJVegeta Feb 16 #53
Wondering about the subset Boo1 Feb 16 #37
Agree with your last statement and Lifeafter70 Feb 16 #57
this thread is really something WhiskeyGrinder Feb 16 #41
Maybe you should have your passport confiscated nt Dreamer Tatum Feb 16 #50
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»State Department to revok...»Reply #38