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Orrex

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37. I think we're differing on what qualifies as the "same" person

Mon Feb 16, 2026, 01:50 PM

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Marty traveling back ten minutes to high-five his ten-minutes-earlier version isn't the same person in two places; it's present-Marty and earlier-Marty, each occupying a separate respective space.

However, I just remembered that the forgettable Time Cop actually played with this specific issue. (SPOILERS) In the end, our brave hero physically pushes present-timeframe Aaron McComb into past-timeframe Aaron McComb, and the two McCombs are destroyed.

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You've probably heard that AI chatbots can completely fabricate quotes. It happened yesterday in a DU thread. [View all] highplainsdem Friday OP

Thx to you & Goonch SheltieLover Friday #1

Lol for fun I asked an AI the reason for the discrepancy and gave it the passage from your post AZJonnie Friday #2

Not sure what you mean. It quoted one of my replies in that Science Fiction thread, or it quoted highplainsdem Friday #4

I mean it literally sourced from this very thread AZJonnie Friday #7

Claude is clueless. There is an actual story. I posted links about it in the earlier thread I linked to. There highplainsdem Friday #9

It's not surprising that it got confused, this entire discussion is extremely circular AZJonnie Friday #13

I would've expected any bot to at least follow the links in both threads, which would have shown that highplainsdem Friday #15

Claude would have seen this bit, in Goonch's follow-up, which said this: AZJonnie Friday #17

Interesting seeing you try to defend Claude's inane answer, when this thread links to the older thread highplainsdem Yesterday #19

I guess I am, given you don't know what the actual prompt was, yet are arbitrarily coming up with a strawman AZJonnie Yesterday #20

If there was anything close to intelligence in Claude, the highplainsdem Yesterday #21

Why must you insist it's a delusional tangent AZJonnie Yesterday #22

No, the problem using genAI is with genAI and its inherent flaws. Anyone who's ever used genAI should highplainsdem 14 hrs ago #27

And, The Chatbot Is Still Wrong ProfessorGAC Friday #3

+1. It's patent nonsense dalton99a Friday #5

I don't know about that one, Professor :) AZJonnie Friday #8

I'm Going To Say No ProfessorGAC Friday #11

Obviously I know I don't know nearly as much on this topic as you do, so I generally defer, Sir :) AZJonnie Friday #14

Pretty Much ProfessorGAC Friday #16

Can you name a movie in which one person occupied two places at the same time? Orrex 13 hrs ago #29

BTTF Is A Prime Example, Yes ProfessorGAC 11 hrs ago #33

Right, but that's not the same Marty in two places at once Orrex 10 hrs ago #34

Not Getting You ProfessorGAC 10 hrs ago #35

I think we're differing on what qualifies as the "same" person Orrex 10 hrs ago #37

Oh wait. I just caught your bit about "lack of matter available" Orrex 9 hrs ago #38

These tools don't just fabricate fiction. They fabricate citations in law and science pieces. RockRaven Friday #6

Yes. I mentioned that in the earlier thread I linked to. I've posted lots of warnings here over the last few years highplainsdem Friday #10

+1. AI is essentially a smooth-talking buzzword-spewing bullshitter with an unlimited capacity for plagiarism dalton99a Friday #12

Exactly. highplainsdem Yesterday #18

When ChatGPT became popular, people said AI systems really need to provide sources. Renew Deal Yesterday #24

Good catch Renew Deal Yesterday #23

Thanks - but I wouldn't have caught it if I hadn't already looked at a number of websites about the story so highplainsdem 14 hrs ago #25

Yikes. So how do we combat this? It's only going to get worse. Scrivener7 14 hrs ago #26

Yeah, it's getting scary. I posted something I didn't know was AI. I took it down as soon as mucifer 14 hrs ago #28

It's really bad in the political commentary video space Renew Deal 12 hrs ago #31

I suspect AI systems will be like fish farms. cachukis 12 hrs ago #30

I miss the old Google. Hell, I miss the old Alta Vista. haele 12 hrs ago #32

Anyone can make up a quote. GoCubsGo 10 hrs ago #36