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haele

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32. I miss the old Google. Hell, I miss the old Alta Vista.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 11:34 AM
12 hrs ago

When my oldest grandchild was around two and a half, we were building a toddler's Ikea furniture set, a step stool that could act as a small bench and table she could eat from when doing TV Dinner night, a toddler's chair, and that ubiquitous 28" square side table for a craft and learning table.

She strongly insisted on helping. Okay, learning experience.

The step stool was the only Item that survived her "helping", because she got bored and hungry, wandered off to get a snack - and we did all the difficult work and only let her tighten a few screws we had started for her.
She was really upset the chair wasn't working out and the table legs kept falling out.
So, we told her Grandma the engineer would look it over, see where the factory got it wrong, and fix the factory problems, then she could finish the furniture.
I got another chair and table (and swedish meatball dinner kit) after work the next day, put them mostly together in the family car before coming in, and Grandpa Lazy oversaw her "finish" putting her furniture together while Grandma put together the dinner.

AI bots remind me of the average young toddler putting together more complex Ikea furniture.
Physically and conceptually not quite there yet...

The question is whether or not they can actually grow, or if they remain LLMs with a veneer of autonomy.
Since the variety of functionality and complex operations that enable brain function and human thinking and intuitions (let alone those of less complex species) is still not understood at all, it's rather difficult for me to believe AI as it is now, based on 1's and 0's, can reach the actual self awareness and evolutionary learning drives that the biological based computer - a brain - can achieve.

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Thx to you & Goonch SheltieLover Friday #1
Lol for fun I asked an AI the reason for the discrepancy and gave it the passage from your post AZJonnie Friday #2
Not sure what you mean. It quoted one of my replies in that Science Fiction thread, or it quoted highplainsdem Friday #4
I mean it literally sourced from this very thread AZJonnie Friday #7
Claude is clueless. There is an actual story. I posted links about it in the earlier thread I linked to. There highplainsdem Friday #9
It's not surprising that it got confused, this entire discussion is extremely circular AZJonnie Friday #13
I would've expected any bot to at least follow the links in both threads, which would have shown that highplainsdem Friday #15
Claude would have seen this bit, in Goonch's follow-up, which said this: AZJonnie Friday #17
Interesting seeing you try to defend Claude's inane answer, when this thread links to the older thread highplainsdem Yesterday #19
I guess I am, given you don't know what the actual prompt was, yet are arbitrarily coming up with a strawman AZJonnie Yesterday #20
If there was anything close to intelligence in Claude, the highplainsdem Yesterday #21
Why must you insist it's a delusional tangent AZJonnie Yesterday #22
No, the problem using genAI is with genAI and its inherent flaws. Anyone who's ever used genAI should highplainsdem 14 hrs ago #27
And, The Chatbot Is Still Wrong ProfessorGAC Friday #3
+1. It's patent nonsense dalton99a Friday #5
I don't know about that one, Professor :) AZJonnie Friday #8
I'm Going To Say No ProfessorGAC Friday #11
Obviously I know I don't know nearly as much on this topic as you do, so I generally defer, Sir :) AZJonnie Friday #14
Pretty Much ProfessorGAC Friday #16
Can you name a movie in which one person occupied two places at the same time? Orrex 13 hrs ago #29
BTTF Is A Prime Example, Yes ProfessorGAC 11 hrs ago #33
Right, but that's not the same Marty in two places at once Orrex 10 hrs ago #34
Not Getting You ProfessorGAC 10 hrs ago #35
I think we're differing on what qualifies as the "same" person Orrex 10 hrs ago #37
Oh wait. I just caught your bit about "lack of matter available" Orrex 9 hrs ago #38
These tools don't just fabricate fiction. They fabricate citations in law and science pieces. RockRaven Friday #6
Yes. I mentioned that in the earlier thread I linked to. I've posted lots of warnings here over the last few years highplainsdem Friday #10
+1. AI is essentially a smooth-talking buzzword-spewing bullshitter with an unlimited capacity for plagiarism dalton99a Friday #12
Exactly. highplainsdem Yesterday #18
When ChatGPT became popular, people said AI systems really need to provide sources. Renew Deal Yesterday #24
Good catch Renew Deal Yesterday #23
Thanks - but I wouldn't have caught it if I hadn't already looked at a number of websites about the story so highplainsdem 14 hrs ago #25
Yikes. So how do we combat this? It's only going to get worse. Scrivener7 14 hrs ago #26
Yeah, it's getting scary. I posted something I didn't know was AI. I took it down as soon as mucifer 14 hrs ago #28
It's really bad in the political commentary video space Renew Deal 12 hrs ago #31
I suspect AI systems will be like fish farms. cachukis 12 hrs ago #30
I miss the old Google. Hell, I miss the old Alta Vista. haele 12 hrs ago #32
Anyone can make up a quote. GoCubsGo 10 hrs ago #36
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