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In reply to the discussion: You've probably heard that AI chatbots can completely fabricate quotes. It happened yesterday in a DU thread. [View all]highplainsdem
(61,057 posts)27. No, the problem using genAI is with genAI and its inherent flaws. Anyone who's ever used genAI should
be aware that the exact same prompt can get different answers, often wildly different answers. Every image generator that offers multiple options as results given just one prompt proves that.
And text generators can do the same thing, but are rarely set to do so because multiple varying text responses make it painfully obvious (painful for AI peddlers) that genAI has no real awareness of what is correct. And what can be excused as "creative" when there are very different images offered at once can't be excused away when it's text, no matter how hard the AI companies have tried to market their flawed tech's hallucinations as "creative" responses.
I would argue the biggest problem is the fuckhead AI companies paying off the pols so they can rush to market before there's ANY protective standards for humanity.
The first gigantic problem was the worldwide theft of intellectual property.
The second gigantic problem was release of tech they knew could and would be widely used for cheating and criminal fraud.
The third was releasing AI that hallucinated and still sounded convincing.
The fourth was releasing chatbots designed to become addictive.
I don't consider badly flawed tech that can be used for fraud amazing.
And there was a paragraph in your previous message that I should have responded to:
AI doing coding is 100% here to stay, so discussing the non-perfection in using AI to do it is a bit pointless at this juncture. There's probably nothing it's better at doing, and it relies on publicly available/non-copyrighted documents to do that work, so it's also among the more morally acceptable things to use it for.
"Publicly available" is not the same thing as "non-copyrighted" even though AI robber barons would love people to believe they are the same.
AI models that code also have legal problems.
https://www.bloomberglaw.com/external/document/X4H9CFB4000000/copyrights-professional-perspective-ip-issues-with-ai-code-gener
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You've probably heard that AI chatbots can completely fabricate quotes. It happened yesterday in a DU thread. [View all]
highplainsdem
Friday
OP
Lol for fun I asked an AI the reason for the discrepancy and gave it the passage from your post
AZJonnie
Friday
#2
Not sure what you mean. It quoted one of my replies in that Science Fiction thread, or it quoted
highplainsdem
Friday
#4
Claude is clueless. There is an actual story. I posted links about it in the earlier thread I linked to. There
highplainsdem
Friday
#9
It's not surprising that it got confused, this entire discussion is extremely circular
AZJonnie
Friday
#13
I would've expected any bot to at least follow the links in both threads, which would have shown that
highplainsdem
Friday
#15
Interesting seeing you try to defend Claude's inane answer, when this thread links to the older thread
highplainsdem
Yesterday
#19
I guess I am, given you don't know what the actual prompt was, yet are arbitrarily coming up with a strawman
AZJonnie
Yesterday
#20
No, the problem using genAI is with genAI and its inherent flaws. Anyone who's ever used genAI should
highplainsdem
14 hrs ago
#27
Obviously I know I don't know nearly as much on this topic as you do, so I generally defer, Sir :)
AZJonnie
Friday
#14
These tools don't just fabricate fiction. They fabricate citations in law and science pieces.
RockRaven
Friday
#6
Yes. I mentioned that in the earlier thread I linked to. I've posted lots of warnings here over the last few years
highplainsdem
Friday
#10
+1. AI is essentially a smooth-talking buzzword-spewing bullshitter with an unlimited capacity for plagiarism
dalton99a
Friday
#12
When ChatGPT became popular, people said AI systems really need to provide sources.
Renew Deal
Yesterday
#24
Thanks - but I wouldn't have caught it if I hadn't already looked at a number of websites about the story so
highplainsdem
14 hrs ago
#25
Yeah, it's getting scary. I posted something I didn't know was AI. I took it down as soon as
mucifer
14 hrs ago
#28