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dalton99a

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9. Nazis favored the word ''heimat''
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 06:53 PM
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Nazis favored the word ''heimat,'' or ''homeland,'' and homeland defense forces were known as Heimwehr or Heimatschutz in Austria and Germany from the late 1920's.

For several decades after World War II, Germans rarely used patriotic words like ''heimat'' and ''vaterland,'' Hans Dieter Lucas, a spokesman at the German Embassy here, said.

''People then were reluctant to say 'heimat' or to be proud to be a native of Germany, but that is over,'' Mr. Lucas said. ''The term was misused by the Nazis -- the notion derives from 19th-century Romanticism, to mean your roots, the region where you grew up, your identity, where you belong, and that is how we use 'heimat' today.''

For the United States, the political origins of homeland security go back to the 1997 Quadrennial Defense Review mandated by Congress. While no one can remember who came up with the phrase, it shows up as part of a recommendation to put an ''increased emphasis on homeland defense.''

''In the discussions we had about antiterrorism in the building, we used the term 'homeland security' or 'defense,' '' said Kenneth H. Bacon, the former Pentagon spokesman. ''It does sort of have Germanic implications to it, and from that standpoint, it may carry unfortunate baggage, but I think it's descriptive.''

https://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/31/us/washington-talk-prickly-roots-of-homeland-security.html

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I recall when it was created & there were many who opposed it. SheltieLover Friday #1
Including moi! Mme. Defarge Friday #2
Me too... SheltieLover Friday #4
If I remember correctly, the wet dream was actually pnac's. We knew they niyad Friday #20
Yes. SheltieLover Friday #22
Way back when I saved a report on PNAC pat_k Friday #28
Would you consider posting this as its own OP, for wider niyad Friday #32
I was one MustLoveBeagles Friday #14
Me too, Beagles! SheltieLover Friday #15
Yep TimeToGo Friday #16
I was suspicious right from the start when they used the term "Homeland". llmart Friday #17
Same here. SheltieLover Friday #23
My elderly father, who was raised as a farm Republican, was absolutely INCENSED by Jack Valentino Friday #35
Your dad sounds like a great patriot! SheltieLover Friday #36
I forgot to say my 'late' father.... he died in 2020, at the age of 91... Jack Valentino Friday #38
So sorry for your loss. SheltieLover Yesterday #40
I particularly miss him when working on my garden, which is something we did together Jack Valentino Yesterday #41
The fear of immigrants coming here goes hand-in-hand with racism FakeNoose Friday #3
I Wholly Agree - It Was a Corrupt Idea and Violation of the American Credo from the Get-go The Roux Comes First Friday #5
Absolutely! (does not excuse the current further corruption) pat_k Friday #26
I always hated that name Homeland MacKasey Friday #6
When I first heard homeland under the Bush administration, Sanity Claws Friday #7
I think when we redeem our national soul 1WorldHope Friday #8
Now, that's an idea! pat_k Friday #33
Whose time has come! 🙂 1WorldHope Friday #37
Nazis favored the word ''heimat'' dalton99a Friday #9
We are a Nation, not some ethnic Homeland. pat_k Friday #30
So say we all. BidenRocks Friday #10
Yes, the entire reorganization that led to DHS (and that un-American name) needs to be undone. JHB Friday #11
republicans are an organizational mess BaronChocula Friday #12
Using the word "homeland" has always given me the willies. It's creepy. paleotn Friday #13
I have no doubt that it was intended. pat_k Friday #34
INDEED! For anybody 'white', this is NOT their 'homeland'! Jack Valentino Friday #39
Bush legacy malaise Friday #18
It was a harmful idea from the start dlk Friday #19
A Lot of Us Deep State Witch Friday #21
end this travesty. quakerboy Friday #24
I remember in the GW Bush days when the government formed DHS and they began infringing phylny Friday #25
Ugh is right. pat_k 21 hrs ago #43
Referring to the country as "Homeland" should have set off klaxon horns during W's administration Tim S Friday #27
For many it did -- but tragically not enough. pat_k Friday #31
DURec leftstreet Friday #29
DHS is some nazi bullshit. Always has been. Iggo Yesterday #42
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