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In reply to the discussion: From its inception, DHS was a corruption of fundamental American values. [View all]dalton99a
(93,016 posts)9. Nazis favored the word ''heimat''
Nazis favored the word ''heimat,'' or ''homeland,'' and homeland defense forces were known as Heimwehr or Heimatschutz in Austria and Germany from the late 1920's.
For several decades after World War II, Germans rarely used patriotic words like ''heimat'' and ''vaterland,'' Hans Dieter Lucas, a spokesman at the German Embassy here, said.
''People then were reluctant to say 'heimat' or to be proud to be a native of Germany, but that is over,'' Mr. Lucas said. ''The term was misused by the Nazis -- the notion derives from 19th-century Romanticism, to mean your roots, the region where you grew up, your identity, where you belong, and that is how we use 'heimat' today.''
For the United States, the political origins of homeland security go back to the 1997 Quadrennial Defense Review mandated by Congress. While no one can remember who came up with the phrase, it shows up as part of a recommendation to put an ''increased emphasis on homeland defense.''
''In the discussions we had about antiterrorism in the building, we used the term 'homeland security' or 'defense,' '' said Kenneth H. Bacon, the former Pentagon spokesman. ''It does sort of have Germanic implications to it, and from that standpoint, it may carry unfortunate baggage, but I think it's descriptive.''
For several decades after World War II, Germans rarely used patriotic words like ''heimat'' and ''vaterland,'' Hans Dieter Lucas, a spokesman at the German Embassy here, said.
''People then were reluctant to say 'heimat' or to be proud to be a native of Germany, but that is over,'' Mr. Lucas said. ''The term was misused by the Nazis -- the notion derives from 19th-century Romanticism, to mean your roots, the region where you grew up, your identity, where you belong, and that is how we use 'heimat' today.''
For the United States, the political origins of homeland security go back to the 1997 Quadrennial Defense Review mandated by Congress. While no one can remember who came up with the phrase, it shows up as part of a recommendation to put an ''increased emphasis on homeland defense.''
''In the discussions we had about antiterrorism in the building, we used the term 'homeland security' or 'defense,' '' said Kenneth H. Bacon, the former Pentagon spokesman. ''It does sort of have Germanic implications to it, and from that standpoint, it may carry unfortunate baggage, but I think it's descriptive.''
https://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/31/us/washington-talk-prickly-roots-of-homeland-security.html
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My elderly father, who was raised as a farm Republican, was absolutely INCENSED by
Jack Valentino
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I particularly miss him when working on my garden, which is something we did together
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I Wholly Agree - It Was a Corrupt Idea and Violation of the American Credo from the Get-go
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Yes, the entire reorganization that led to DHS (and that un-American name) needs to be undone.
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I remember in the GW Bush days when the government formed DHS and they began infringing
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