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(177,056 posts)42. MaddowBlog-Dems enraged after Trump's DOJ targeted veterans with charges of seditious conspiracy
If these fers think that theyre going to intimidate us and threaten and bully me into silence
they have another thing coming, one Democrat said.
Dems enraged after Trumpâs DOJ targeted veterans with charges of seditious conspiracy - MS NOW
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In legal circles, its known as no bill. Thats the label used to describe what happens when prosecutors go to a grand jury to secure an indictment and jury members reject the effort.
If it seems as if the phrase has been coming up more frequently in recent months, its not your imagination. Donald Trumps Justice Department has run into no bill setbacks repeatedly of late, in cases ranging from former FBI Director James Comey to New York Attorney General Letitia James to Sean Dunn (better known as the sandwich guy).
The latest example, however, is arguably the most dramatic: MS NOW reported that a federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., has declined to indict at least two Democratic senators Arizonas Mark Kelly and Michigans Elissa Slotkin on charges of seditious conspiracy......
Thats precisely what happened. As The New York Times summarized:
Thats certainly correct, though Id add that its also remarkable to note the crime that Trumps DOJ accused the Democratic lawmakers of committing: Seditious conspiracy is a serious felony charge thats rarely pursued. The idea that members of Congress crossed that line, and effectively conspired to undermine the authority of the government by reminding service members to follow the law and reject illegal orders, is insane......
Democratic Rep. Jason Crow of Colorado, a decorated Army veteran who served in both Iraq and Afghanistan, was even more candid. If these fers think that theyre going to intimidate us and threaten and bully me into silence, and theyre going to go after political opponents and get us to back down, they have another thing coming, Crow said. The tide is turning.
As for the partys leadership, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries was also unreserved, declaring in a written statement: The Grand Jury upheld and honored the Constitution, doing what Donald Trump and his corrupt Republican sycophants lack the character to do. The attempt to indict Members of Congress for exercising their constitutionally-protected First Amendment rights is another shameful example of the cancerous rot that engulfs the Trump administration.
The New York Democrat concluded, Donald Trump, Jeanine Pirro and the corrupt political hacks at the Department of Justice will not silence or intimidate us. Every attempt to weaponize the criminal justice system will only strengthen our resolve as we work to end the National nightmare that extreme MAGA Republicans are inflicting on the country. They will all be held accountable for their lawlessness.
If it seems as if the phrase has been coming up more frequently in recent months, its not your imagination. Donald Trumps Justice Department has run into no bill setbacks repeatedly of late, in cases ranging from former FBI Director James Comey to New York Attorney General Letitia James to Sean Dunn (better known as the sandwich guy).
The latest example, however, is arguably the most dramatic: MS NOW reported that a federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., has declined to indict at least two Democratic senators Arizonas Mark Kelly and Michigans Elissa Slotkin on charges of seditious conspiracy......
Thats precisely what happened. As The New York Times summarized:
It was remarkable that the U.S. attorneys office in Washington led by Jeanine Pirro, a longtime ally of Mr. Trumps authorized prosecutors to go into a grand jury and ask for an indictment. But it was even more remarkable that a group of ordinary citizens sitting on the grand jury in Federal District Court in Washington forcefully rejected Mr. Trumps bid to label their expression of dissent as a criminal act warranting prosecution.
Thats certainly correct, though Id add that its also remarkable to note the crime that Trumps DOJ accused the Democratic lawmakers of committing: Seditious conspiracy is a serious felony charge thats rarely pursued. The idea that members of Congress crossed that line, and effectively conspired to undermine the authority of the government by reminding service members to follow the law and reject illegal orders, is insane......
Democratic Rep. Jason Crow of Colorado, a decorated Army veteran who served in both Iraq and Afghanistan, was even more candid. If these fers think that theyre going to intimidate us and threaten and bully me into silence, and theyre going to go after political opponents and get us to back down, they have another thing coming, Crow said. The tide is turning.
As for the partys leadership, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries was also unreserved, declaring in a written statement: The Grand Jury upheld and honored the Constitution, doing what Donald Trump and his corrupt Republican sycophants lack the character to do. The attempt to indict Members of Congress for exercising their constitutionally-protected First Amendment rights is another shameful example of the cancerous rot that engulfs the Trump administration.
The New York Democrat concluded, Donald Trump, Jeanine Pirro and the corrupt political hacks at the Department of Justice will not silence or intimidate us. Every attempt to weaponize the criminal justice system will only strengthen our resolve as we work to end the National nightmare that extreme MAGA Republicans are inflicting on the country. They will all be held accountable for their lawlessness.
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Chris Hayes reporting that Grand Jury has refused to indict Mark Kelly and the [View all]
allegorical oracle
Tuesday
OP
It's just legal harassment! It usually costs money to defend against most charges---
Jack Valentino
Tuesday
#14
Trump administration fails to secure indictment in connection with Democrats involved in 'illegal orders' video
LetMyPeopleVote
Tuesday
#7
Well Duh! What "crime" were they supposed to have committed according to the DOJ?
Wiz Imp
Tuesday
#9
According to the NYT, "interfering with the loyalty, morale or discipline of the U.S. armed forces"
muriel_volestrangler
Yesterday
#30
Grand Jury Rebuffs Justice Dept. Attempt to Indict 6 Democrats in Congress (NYT Gift Subscription)
LetMyPeopleVote
Yesterday
#33
MaddowBlog-Dems enraged after Trump's DOJ targeted veterans with charges of seditious conspiracy
LetMyPeopleVote
Yesterday
#42
I expected this, given the fact that the Uniform Code of Military Justice states this quite clearly.
patphil
23 hrs ago
#43
No grand jurors found the Trump DOJ met low probable cause threshold in failed indictment of Democratic lawmakers
LetMyPeopleVote
22 hrs ago
#44
Deadline Legal Blog-Grand jury's refusal to indict Democrats joins a stunning pattern of DOJ rejections
LetMyPeopleVote
5 hrs ago
#45
