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Bluetus

(2,470 posts)
36. "If they were not paying him, didn't they get suspicious?"
Mon Feb 2, 2026, 03:19 PM
20 hrs ago

I don't think we can judge these people based on our own life experiences. Nearly 100% of these people were born into privilege and have never known anything but. They have always gotten what they wanted and when they got into trouble somebody always paid somebody off, so they have all literally been above the law their entire lives.

Yes, if somebody invited me to a private island to hang with the most powerful people in the world and have as much booze, sex, and drugs as I wanted and it is all on Trump on Epstein, I would certainly be suspicious. But not these people.

I don't think Gates is a stupid man, but he obviously got very deeply into this. I wonder how far in Gates was before he realized, "Hey wait. There seem to be an awful lot of Russian oligarchs and Russian women here."

Prince Andrew is more understandable because such arrogance is the very definition of royalty. Robert Kraft and Lex Wexner? Probably just horny old guys, already well on the path to dementia.

Most of the rest are probably explainable as ambitious assholes who would jump at any chance to be seen in a powerful crowd.

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The "pee" in "pee tape" was a capital "P" for "Pedo" RockRaven Sunday #1
What a tragic disappointment Lulu KC 19 hrs ago #42
FSB/GRU. roamer65 Sunday #2
+1 peppertree 20 hrs ago #37
We knew this.. a global CSA criminal syndicate has been operating for years Bread and Circuses Sunday #3
Do the math. This was not a sex operation. Bluetus Yesterday #7
Gates' divorce gives some insight into the reach of the Trump/Epstein operation Bluetus Yesterday #9
It was any kind of blackmail. Money laundering was a big part of it. travelingthrulife Yesterday #14
Provingonce again that you don't have to be smart to be a billionaire Bluetus 23 hrs ago #18
It was both. harumph 23 hrs ago #21
Lots of rich people pay for sex one way or another. Bluetus 23 hrs ago #24
Your maths are way off. By a factor of 1000. Celerity 22 hrs ago #25
Correct 500,000 services Bluetus 21 hrs ago #29
I was only disputing the '500 million services' part, not the rest. nt Celerity 17 hrs ago #49
Bluetus, a question. Irish_Dem 21 hrs ago #27
He wasn't paying those girls $2000 per service Bluetus 21 hrs ago #30
Interesting. Irish_Dem 20 hrs ago #35
"If they were not paying him, didn't they get suspicious?" Bluetus 20 hrs ago #36
Yes I agree. Irish_Dem 20 hrs ago #38
It is a dark business, but I think you nailed it. Bluetus 20 hrs ago #41
What about the drug trade. Irish_Dem 20 hrs ago #39
I doubt it was much Bluetus 20 hrs ago #40
I think you are right. Irish_Dem 19 hrs ago #43
No need for drug gangs to kill Epstein. He was already in jail Bluetus 18 hrs ago #45
Exactly Irish_Dem 15 hrs ago #51
Translation, Either Barr or his father (or both) were clients Bluetus 12 hrs ago #52
Thanks Irish_Dem 7 hrs ago #57
And Epstein undoubtedly steered some of the money laundering Bluetus 1 hr ago #59
Would explain all the Trump bankruptcies. They were just money laundering schemes. Irish_Dem 1 hr ago #60
It Was Both. ColoringFool 18 hrs ago #44
This message was self-deleted by its author eppur_se_muova 8 hrs ago #56
I still think Trump is a Russian agent - sounds conspiracy theory but it seems obvious. walkingman Sunday #4
2014 US Treasury FinCEN report of TajMahal casino laundering Russian mob money. roamer65 Sunday #5
i still think melania is his "handler" ret5hd Yesterday #6
I doubt it. She is not that smart. Bluetus Yesterday #16
The Queen of Diamonds...re Manchurian Candidate BattleRow 17 hrs ago #48
I think she was the "honey"...... SergeStorms 23 hrs ago #23
Putin has everything on him Johonny Yesterday #8
Conspiracy theory? Mysterian Yesterday #10
Yes that needs to be a daily news item. bluestarone Yesterday #12
Pure Honeytrap. BradBo Yesterday #11
Are there a lot of Russian ties in the Epstein files? leftstreet Yesterday #13
They went after all the autocrats and oligarchs too. Everybody smooching Trump's ass travelingthrulife Yesterday #15
It does seem odd quakerboy 21 hrs ago #28
It's russia and israel SamuelTheThird 21 hrs ago #31
I see things differently. yardwork 21 hrs ago #33
I think his ties to Israeli intel are stronger than those with Russia fujiyamasan 11 hrs ago #53
It may not be. surrealAmerican 17 hrs ago #46
Russia was never not the enemy of the people! czarjak 23 hrs ago #17
That's been obvious for years. yardwork 23 hrs ago #19
Considering the email exchanges between Maxwell and Melania and that Melania might have been Botany 23 hrs ago #20
Was Epstein Rebl2 23 hrs ago #22
It's the Daily Mail. If "you know," why are you posting it? n/t malthaussen 22 hrs ago #26
Because in the past couple of years they sometimes have good articles SamuelTheThird 21 hrs ago #32
It's ok in GD, as a starting point for discussion. yardwork 20 hrs ago #34
And how was Epstein chosen to be the conduit for these machinations BattleRow 17 hrs ago #47
How long as the DOJ been in possession of these files? mdbl 15 hrs ago #50
Message auto-removed Name removed 11 hrs ago #54
Yeah, I'm getting paid to post SamuelTheThird 11 hrs ago #55
Trump was one hell of a catch Skittles 7 hrs ago #58
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