General Discussion

AZJonnie

(3,294 posts)

19. I would bet that she's more familiar with these men (AFTER the fact, I mean, not that her/Lisa did anything wrong!)

Sat Jan 31, 2026, 05:39 PM

Jan 31

Norm Lubow / “Al Taylor” – Reported as the key promoter behind the scenes: he helped orchestrate the initial pseudonymous filing, arranged the February 11, 2016 videotaped testimony, and then shopped that video to media outlets (Gawker, tabloids, etc.), reportedly trying to sell it for up to about $1 million.

Jonathann Launer – The videographer who filmed Johnson’s February 2016 testimony; he was reportedly offered (and in some accounts paid) a stake in any proceeds from selling the tape.

Steve Baer – A conservative "Never Trump" Illinois donor who sent money to support the effort (wired tens of thousands to Lubow/“Taylor” and Launer), expecting the video and story to surface; later fell out with them when more money was requested.

More about Lubow:

Norm Lubow was a producer on The Jerry Springer Show in the mid‑ to late‑1990s, after first appearing on the show as a guest.

He started out as a frequent guest (often under his “Reverend Bud Green” persona), then became a freelance guest‑booker and eventually a full‑time producer around 1996.

His role included finding and staging “fake” guests, coaching them to create on‑air drama, and (per his own later claims) sometimes arranging women from those bookings to sleep with Springer after tapings.

He says he was fired in 1998 after an ABC 20/20 exposé accused him of scripting and coaching guests, which the show’s executives treated as going too far even for Springer‑style theatrics

My best guess is that Lisa may have been taken in by a con in this case. Worth noting that her involvement was VERY minimal and very late, and she ended up hung out to dry when she arranged a press conference for "Katie" and then she didn't show up.

Click here to purchase valentine hearts!

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

1 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Clouds Passing

53 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

This "raped a 13 year old and then threatened to "disappear" her and have her family killed" thing keeps getting worse [View all] Miles Archer Jan 31 OP

"Trump telling Plaintiff that she shouldn't ever say anything" CoopersDad Jan 31 #1

I will kick this thread up also. Whats more, i will post it on FB and instagram. Trueblue1968 Jan 31 #22

This is the "Jane Doe/Katie Johnson" video/lawsuit, which was promoted in the runup to Nov 2016 by Never Trumpers AZJonnie Jan 31 #2

I sure hope it is not a set up, but it certainly seems to be from what I have read of released documents. cksmithy Jan 31 #5

Gloria Allred knows who they are. Scrivener7 Jan 31 #14

I would bet that she's more familiar with these men (AFTER the fact, I mean, not that her/Lisa did anything wrong!) AZJonnie Jan 31 #19

AZ Johnny on the Spot dpibel Jan 31 #32

This one particular account of Epstein's depravity is one that Democrats would be wise AZJonnie Feb 1 #39

Cadaver Dogs to Trump Golf Courses STAT n/t leftstreet Jan 31 #3

Can these dogs smell human remains buried after decades?? Trueblue1968 Jan 31 #23

New a rich guy who bought a big ranch property that formerly belonged to a notorious mobster. Attilatheblond Feb 1 #48

and it adds a new cast musette_sf Jan 31 #26

Yeah, he's dumb enough to have buried corpses on his own golf courses, no doubt. Dave Bowman Jan 31 #27

Calling Carl Hiassen! BadgerMom Feb 1 #46

If morality means nothing to him, the story is true, and he's an open book limited only by his immediate observations. Uncle Joe Jan 31 #4

Uncle Joe, Don's a psychopath. littlemissmartypants Jan 31 #9

He would never admit to it. He never admits to anything. red dog 1 Jan 31 #15

Except Nasruddin Jan 31 #24

When he accuses others of it, he's projecting. BadgerMom Feb 1 #47

From Epstein files released by DOJ and then hidden again angrychair Jan 31 #6

FUCKING MONSTERS! bluestarone Jan 31 #10

That has to be the most horrible thing anyone's ever revealed about Trump. I feel unclean just reading it. sop Jan 31 #12

To be clear angrychair Jan 31 #13

Prior to the election, Fox news claimed that the open border progressoid Feb 1 #34

They're more concerned with Haitian immigrants eating pets. sop Feb 1 #38

No, this is more horrible BonnieJW Feb 1 #36

Kick dalton99a Jan 31 #7

I hope survivor's and their legal reps start with their list they were compiling. Clearly all redacted by DOJ Evolve Dammit Jan 31 #8

The things king piggy already says in public make this completely plausible. Grokenstein Jan 31 #11

Who else besides Ivana is buried at the pedophile's golf course? Blue Owl Jan 31 #16

he has boats and airplanes and plenty of ocean rampartd Jan 31 #20

Skepticism warranted Nasruddin Jan 31 #25

Katie Johnson's Full Testimony of 2/11/16 red dog 1 Jan 31 #17

Beginning at about the 13:00 mark Tiffany Doe describes a sexual role playing incident Uncle Joe Jan 31 #18

Yes! The reason I find this credible is it sounds like the way Trump is currently MadameButterfly Feb 4 #52

This is NOT testimony Wiz Imp Feb 1 #43

She nails Trump right down to the atom, and she.... OGBuzz Feb 1 #49

These serious federal allegations warrant an investigation. LetMyPeopleVote Jan 31 #21

I'm not defending Trump, but people having called in tips to an FBI tipline Wiz Imp Feb 1 #44

Our president is a monster protected by monsters. Martin68 Jan 31 #28

And this FUCKING PEDOPHILE is running "ICE" Blue Owl Jan 31 #29

My daughter and I were just talking about the new dump of files. woodsprite Jan 31 #30

Knowing everything we already know about Trump, and the things he has bragged about, Jack Valentino Jan 31 #31

There must be an FBI investigation into this either in the past, applegrove Jan 31 #33

Seems like... 2naSalit Feb 1 #35

I think this is 100% correct. evolves Feb 1 #50

We need to remember that this story was never investigated by the feds FakeNoose Feb 1 #37

This is why "getting to the truth" about Epstein, and Trump's relationship with him, may never happen. Miles Archer Feb 1 #40

All good points - Hillary Clinton did find stuff and never used it back in 2016 FakeNoose Feb 1 #42

Du'ers bdamomma Feb 1 #41

Every single piece of information about this story has been public information since before Wiz Imp Feb 1 #45

It was largely disproved and dismissed a long time ago Melon Feb 2 #51

When can we expect these filthy pedophiles will Emile Feb 4 #53