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Bluetus

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78. My apologies. You are correct. I replied to the wrong post

Reply to Docreed2003 (Reply #71)

Thu Dec 4, 2025, 09:36 PM

Dec 4

Sometimes these threads get disorienting. I think we agree.

Terms like "center" , "left" and "right" really do not serve us well. It is not like any candidate is advocating for forced sex changes, the banning of all firearms, the elimination of all drug laws, the dismantling of police departments or anything like that. This rhetorical war came up in the recent elections where some Dems (and virtually all Republlicans triesd to imply that Mamdani was way outside mainstream thinking whereas Sherill was very "conservative:" in her views. There really wasn't a big difference.

Mamdani was SPECIFIC. He proposed REAL ideas, tangible proposals for rent, for taxation, for transportation affordability. Other Dems avoid taking solid positions.

Here is a summary of Behn's principles from her website:

Aftyn believes good government should work for everyone, not just the elites. Whether she’s organizing to stop private equity from buying up generational Black family homes through her 2025 Homes, Not Hedge Funds bill, or advocating for fair funding for rural communities through her 2025 Rural Prosperity Act, Aftyn has consistently prioritized transparency and accountability for both urban and rural communities. She’s committed to building an economy that prioritizes workers, supports small businesses, and gives every Tennessean — no matter their zip code — a fair shot at an affordable life and a promising future.

I wish somebody would tell me what is too liberal to Tennessee in any of this. If standing up to hedge funds and billionaires is too liberal for Tennessee, we have a lot of work to do. Objecting to sending most of our national wealth to a few thousand fantastically rich people is not a crazy liberal idea.

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So I waited until the dust settled after the TN election to suggest this, but.... [View all] senseandsensibility Dec 4 OP

Im pretty sure Boo1 Dec 4 #1

Wow. senseandsensibility Dec 4 #4

I agree LetMyPeopleVote Dec 4 #28

Agree and its the same with Tennessee aeromanKC Dec 4 #2

I actually confused TN with KY in my OP at first senseandsensibility Dec 4 #6

Everyone makes mistakes MustLoveBeagles Dec 4 #42

Thanks senseandsensibility Dec 4 #50

It was Tennessee and she won a primary against 3 other Democrats Just_Vote_Dem Dec 4 #3

Fixed it senseandsensibility Dec 4 #7

Good! n/t Just_Vote_Dem Dec 4 #8

Progressive Democrats should definetly run ... PBC_Democrat Dec 4 #37

Gillum didn't lose because he was a progressive. carpetbagger Dec 4 #54

Aftyn Behn won 78.8% of the Nashville vote on Tuesday. Tanuki Dec 4 #59

I agree that Graham would have beaten DeathSantis LetMyPeopleVote Dec 4 #69

That narrative is what gets me in trouble with Democrats. gab13by13 Dec 4 #5

I'm personally for the most liberal candidate in almost all situations senseandsensibility Dec 4 #10

Give me one example where the DNC said gab13by13 Dec 4 #16

I'm guessing that there are Bettie Dec 4 #31

I don't really care what the DNC thinks senseandsensibility Dec 4 #32

i saw them tank a progressive for a moderate. they lost. we got roscum. mopinko Dec 4 #65

I'm with you gab Docreed2003 Dec 4 #48

I kind of doubt it. yardwork Dec 4 #9

Yes, I agree that the more progressive senseandsensibility Dec 4 #11

I think that's what we need. yardwork Dec 4 #13

Agree 👍 anciano Dec 4 #12

Wresting power from the Republican party Alsteen Dec 4 #14

No n/t leftstreet Dec 4 #15

You just said what I was trying to say. gab13by13 Dec 4 #18

NO... 2naSalit Dec 4 #17

So a candidate that ran a Bernie type campaign Emile Dec 4 #19

My whole OP was a question senseandsensibility Dec 4 #20

You should ask Jason Kanew n/t leftstreet Dec 4 #21

Passive aggressives use questions to push a point. Bobstandard Dec 4 #62

So you're calling me passive aggressive without actually doing so? senseandsensibility Dec 4 #64

Thicker skin. Shorter fuse. Bobstandard Dec 4 #66

I think you answered your own question.... getagrip_already Dec 4 #26

I'm sorry, but the only ones doing a purity test Emile Dec 4 #30

how so? getagrip_already Dec 4 #40

So the only ones that do purity tests are progressives. Emile Dec 4 #49

Still dont get it getagrip_already Dec 6 #88

I get it just fine thank you. Emile Dec 6 #89

Who said that? getagrip_already Dec 6 #93

Bookmarking Emile Dec 6 #94

There is no argument to follow, so you got it right. Nixie Dec 6 #90

She won the primary. returnee Dec 4 #34

that is very true, but a primary, especially in a special, is a very progressive race... getagrip_already Dec 4 #38

Probably correct. It's hard to make predictions based upon a special election with significantly lower turnout Silent Type Dec 4 #22

Probably not. It wasn't a winnable district Jose Garcia Dec 4 #23

Good question: Aftyn Behn would have done better or won, Ars Longa Dec 4 #24

I didn't hear about the country music thing until the day after the election senseandsensibility Dec 4 #27

I love country music. returnee Dec 4 #35

Old country was OK- Modern "Bro Country" sounds like has been Ars Longa Dec 4 #43

Yes, give me Willie and Waylon and Johnny Cash and Dolly senseandsensibility Dec 4 #47

I go back to Appalachian folk ballads and fiddle tunes... returnee Dec 4 #72

Merle Haggard? Liberal? returnee Dec 4 #73

By "these days" I take it you mean the last quarter century? johnp3907 Dec 4 #84

I really doubt it mvd Dec 4 #25

Republican-lite always loses to a real Republican Fiendish Thingy Dec 4 #29

Harry Truman Emile Dec 4 #63

Exactly correct Deminpenn Dec 4 #67

Seems a bit irrelevant... EarlG Dec 4 #33

You nailed it MustLoveBeagles Dec 4 #45

It's true that rehashing would have been could have been scenarios senseandsensibility Dec 4 #53

"...old markodochartaigh Dec 4 #57

Plenty of red state moderate incumbents have lost to MAGA Republicans over the years IronLionZion Dec 4 #36

What are the actual examples of progressive winning in deep red states? RoeVWade Dec 4 #39

Was the lack of voter turnout an issue? czarjak Dec 4 #41

No. They said the same things about the moderate dem candidates here. 2 Meow Momma Dec 4 #44

No...absolutely not Docreed2003 Dec 4 #46

This +1 Emile Dec 4 #52

Her message was very mainstream. Bluetus Dec 4 #60

I never said that she was "too progressive" Docreed2003 Dec 4 #71

My apologies. You are correct. I replied to the wrong post Bluetus Dec 4 #78

It didn't help that she was female. Beshear is liberal, but he is a white man and he wins everywhere in KY Wanderlust988 Dec 4 #51

Sadly, I'm sure that was a factor. senseandsensibility Dec 4 #56

It was highly highly unlikely that we were going to win it ibegurpard Dec 4 #55

No. Nashville/Davidson County's rock solid Democratic congressional district Tanuki Dec 4 #58

Thanks senseandsensibility Dec 4 #61

The election in a deep red district, and the outcome, is scaring the hell out of the white supremacy Tr**plicans. NNadir Dec 4 #68

We've been running to the center for 45 years. Gore1FL Dec 4 #70

There have been many moderate southern Dems over the past few decades. Wanderlust988 Dec 4 #74

Never heard of Jasmine Crockett? Emile Dec 4 #77

She's in a very Democratic district Wanderlust988 Dec 4 #81

Used to be a very democratic district. Emile Dec 4 #82

I want what you are smoking. Even Jasmine knows this and will likely run for the Senate Wanderlust988 Dec 4 #85

Keep your personal judgement against fellow duers, Emile Dec 5 #87

You are right. Everyone knows that red districts are different Nixie Dec 6 #91

Maybe we should try; I remember similar arguments regarding what was possible in 2008. Gore1FL Dec 4 #83

Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock won in Georgia...but they are male Wanderlust988 Dec 4 #75

No matter how 'moderate' the candidate is, the GQP will label them "socialist communist fascist radical left Jack Valentino Dec 4 #76

Done better perhaps, but not won Justice Brandeis Dec 4 #79

There are different meanings of "progressive" and "moderate". MervinFerd Dec 4 #80

What does "moderate" even mean in this context? Crunchy Frog Dec 4 #86

Elections are more complicated than progressive vs moderate karynnj Dec 6 #92