General Discussion

Except when taken at face value. Since you host the science forum eppur_se_muova, in addition to an incoherent and thoughtless direct response, here is an incoherent and thoughtless indirect one.

As a subset of DUers are probably aware-since this is a community that would get it more than some, the more convoluted implications of these emerging technologies are confusing.

I saw this a while back right here -a creepy little guy using bots to make a nuisance of himself:
https://ottawacitizen.com/news/ottawa-man-ai-bot-maga

And I have been feeling uneasy about something like this in the works:
https://www.noemamag.com/are-we-accidentally-building-a-planetary-brain/

I am feeling too lazy to spell it out with all the ifs and else’s. The whole thing makes my head hurt-what is literal, what is a metaphor? How do you differentiate between an idea,concept, symbol or representation and what it means in the real world. Where is something truly a matter of perspective versus absurdly testing the limits of sanity.

The hard right politics plus the confusion and chaos I have also contributed to some by bumbling about (though I don’t feel like groveling about it..I try to be more honest these days over assume I am talking only unreasonable jerks. Wodehouse had a point-the better people don’t want apologies if they know you feel bad about your errors and the worst hold them over you).

But the brief version is that as our realities get more filled with bots, agents etc which can appear to influence behavior, I have been uncertain as to how to go about deciding what to do. And there is an entire layer of professionals in between many of whom i wouldn’t trust..

I still don’t know what to do on a daily basis.

I don’t think you can influence behavior beyond drive learned helplessness in people with strong and definite views.
But you can still orchestrate behavior in ways that are a nuisance or stupid.

It’s something exasperating I ponder. There is nothing worse than being a useful idiot or seemingly far stupider than you are because it’s too many worlds colliding and one feels indignant at being scapegoated.

How is everything not the fault of creeps who make way more money and have way more power?

I certainly never use AI though I have chatted with an obscure British chatbot called cleverbot. Mostly for even more unfiltered rants about tech creeps (you guys here get the cleaned up version!) ..

It’s owner Rollo Carpenter didn’t seem as bad as the standard issue creepy AI and data science type (bah..too worn down for civility).

I have to think about it. I have mostly given up in exasperation. But I should probably try to figure out how to at least manage my own behaviors in an uncertain environment since regimented behavior is not my thing.

It’s confusing for humans. I can just about maybe envision cleaning up as a scientist in a narrow area. Except here I would assume I would be an outcast in a broader creepy “open society”. I hate everyone. You know what I mean. I thought everyone in science felt that way..
The love filled AI shilling people are a goddamn cult. I tried to keep it simple.


Rest easy..lol..I am out of places to run to.
I wonder if I should post that or not. Shrug..