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AllyCat

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Mon Dec 1, 2025, 11:50 AM Monday

MAGA nurse I work with and "professional nurses" [View all]

Yesterday, I made a quip at work about management's efforts to reduce our pay/overtime while still getting us to do the work (for less money). MAGA RN had just finished a double shift, because there was no one to replace her after her first shift ended. She asked me for union help to negotiate the way management was trying to claim she couldn't get overtime for her double shift.

When we were done with strategizing, I made the comment "well, now that we aren't 'professionals' anymore, I suspect we will see more of this from management".

Here's how her mental gymnastics worked to defend the DoE decision to downgrade RNs from professional status:

MAGA RN: This is only to make it so universities can't gouge students trying to get Masters and Doctorate degrees in nursing.
AllyCat: So, why wouldn't the DoE have made it so ALL graduate programs less expensive? Why just nurses and teachers? (yes, I know it's more than those 2 groups)

MR: Well, it only affects graduate-degree nurses, not us (Bachelors).
AC: It is interesting these are both professions with largely female workers.

MR: This is how the DoE is recognizing that women have lower earning power and this helps women in the long run be able to afford school.
AC: (walks away shaking head)

This is how they are rationalizing this. I only had 20 seconds and would love to have launched into "Why downgrade nurses at any level?" and any number of other arguments, but MAGA is telling women this is good for them and helps them.

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As an RN, I often say, "Nurses eat their own....." FarPoint Monday #1
Who does she think runs the undergrad nursing programs? Irish_Dem Monday #2
Would love to have had the time to get into that part of it. AllyCat Monday #3
Maybe GOP long term plan to cut medical care costs? Just get rid of the real care-providers and let people die Attilatheblond Monday #8
Yes the rich do not want money going to the sick for healthcare. Irish_Dem Monday #12
Or letting people of different ethnic groups even stay in the US unless they are VERY rich and will pay up Attilatheblond Monday #23
Women who are not totally subservient must go as well. Irish_Dem Monday #29
Any thinking female not replaced by a Stepford bot is gonna have to fight. Attilatheblond Monday #31
One hospital I worked at stopped identifying our role on our nametags so the travelingthrulife 19 hrs ago #41
NY state in 1976 mgardener Monday #4
And they/we definitely ARE professional. However, AllyCat Monday #5
Rural people elected Trump and he is literally killing them. yardwork Monday #7
They're killing themselves BaronChocula Monday #15
Amazing, isn't it...... popsdenver Monday #16
They voted for a Jim Jones death cult. Irish_Dem Monday #30
They really did. yardwork Monday #33
They are doing a Darwin, making themselves extinct. Irish_Dem Monday #34
I've found it's impossible to use logic to reach MAGATs, especially the conservative Christians. yardwork Monday #6
From Professor Altemeyer: markodochartaigh 20 hrs ago #40
Many nurses and medical technicians are also foreign-born as well as female FakeNoose Monday #9
You can't fix stupid NewEnglandAutumn Monday #10
LOL NEA popsdenver Monday #14
Headline should read: OhioBack2Blue Monday #11
And it's a shame because she is an excellent nurse. Welcome to DU! AllyCat Monday #13
Anyone who has to do so many mental gymnastics to avoid reality may not be a good nurse. Irish_Dem Monday #32
Tell her lower pay and benefits are also good for women... Trueblue Texan Monday #17
You can't argue with MAGA, because they use the same tactics as apologetics sakabatou Monday #18
Still professional with state license bayberry Monday #19
How does one become a nurse or an educator or a physical therapist AllyCat Monday #22
I worked with Just Jerome Monday #20
Jesus Lemon Lyman Monday #21
I've dated 5 nurses in my lifetime, Pas-de-Calais Monday #24
😢 AllyCat Monday #26
MAGA proponents have well and truly brainwashed the MAGA-verse. They have a bullshit answer for every dubious move Martin68 Monday #25
It is indeed brainwashing. hadEnuf 21 hrs ago #36
Absolutely. markodochartaigh 20 hrs ago #39
Frankly, I don't see how it could have been missed. hadEnuf 18 hrs ago #43
Is she smart enought to work as a nurse? mgardener Monday #27
That she acknowledges that women have lower earning power put her at 9dds with maga BlueWaveNeverEnd Monday #28
The pretzel logic used by MAGA is both daunting and disgusting wolfie001 21 hrs ago #35
What an idiot!! LilElf70 21 hrs ago #37
The very large public hospital in markodochartaigh 20 hrs ago #38
I think "Well, it only affects graduate-degree nurses, not us" says a lot of it ToxMarz 19 hrs ago #42
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