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Aussie105

(7,481 posts)
19. It is a worry.
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 06:43 PM
Sunday

For every soldier who refuses an illegal order there are 10 who have been trained to not think, who will do it.

The whole 'do not follow illegal orders' has never been tested in real life.

If you are relying on young males trained to blindly follow orders to have a clear and ethical internal dialog, I have some bad news for you.

American soldiers ordered to shoot and killing American civilians? It has happened before and will again.

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What's next? "Kill them all" orders on US soil against Americans? Irish_Dem Sunday #1
Is it clear? Fiendish Thingy Sunday #2
Thank you, MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #4
Ok, some carry out illegal orders and some don't. 2 Meow Momma Sunday #10
This is what i have slightlv Sunday #14
Thanks. It's like they WANT things to get out of control. paleotn Sunday #15
Apparently carried out by Seal team 6 members. Should they not know better? Bev54 Sunday #22
This was as much trial balloon as incident. / nt bucolic_frolic Sunday #3
This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #5
All involved should go to prison for a very, very long time. Lets hope an international court will get the ball rolling yaesu Sunday #6
Trashing this thread for the nonsense. nt MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #7
Remember the U.S. soldiers who gunned down civilians from Apache helicopters in Baghdad back in 2007? sop Sunday #8
It has always been clear that some will. Look at US history, ffs. RockRaven Sunday #9
Some might not shoot, Dan Sunday #11
And some will shoot with malice and glee. ("When can we start using these?") erronis Sunday #12
Soldiers? What were they doing? Swimming? paleotn Sunday #13
I should have written "service members", not soldiers. 2 Meow Momma Sunday #21
Even if once is too much, two words: Kent State duckworth969 Sunday #16
Two words LilElf70 Sunday #17
Two other words: AverageOldGuy Sunday #18
It is a worry. Aussie105 Sunday #19
And that Admiral COL Mustard Sunday #20
Thank you! I thought I heard that right. nt 2 Meow Momma Sunday #24
Thus far we have BaronChocula Sunday #23
We have them shooting live ammo at protesters not just non lethal. They shot a lady five times and she lived Blues Heron Sunday #28
Yes but BaronChocula Sunday #31
28 of 77 national Guardsmen shot at Kent State, the rest refused. kerry-is-my-prez Sunday #25
That's my thinking too. The military will kill civilians in the US. Bread and Circuses Sunday #26
Correct, there are no orders the military will not follow - which boat strike did they refuse? None of them Blues Heron Sunday #27
The problem is... WHO judges legality? WarGamer Sunday #29
I actually believe soldiers wouldn't carry out that order. PragmaticLiberal Sunday #30
Jesus Fucking Christ.nt LexVegas Sunday #32
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