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8. Remember the U.S. soldiers who gunned down civilians from Apache helicopters in Baghdad back in 2007?

Sun Nov 30, 2025, 04:11 PM

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The airstrike killed 12 civilians, including two Reuters journalists. In a follow-up strike the crew fired on a van whose driver was attempting to help the wounded, killing him and wounding his two children in the vehicle. The classified video footage was later leaked to WikiLeaks by U.S. Army intelligence analyst Chelsea Manning, and released to the public in 2010 under the title "Collateral Murder."

The video and audio, which included the crew's casual commentary and laughter, caused a global outcry and prompted human rights organizations to call for an independent investigation. No legal action was taken against the Apache helicopter crews. A U.S. military investigation concluded the actions were justified under the rules of engagement. The only person to face legal consequences was Chelsea Manning, who was arrested, convicted and sentenced to 35 years in prison. Manning's sentence was later commuted by President Obama.

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It's clear now. Our military will carry out illegal orders. [View all] 2 Meow Momma Sunday OP

What's next? "Kill them all" orders on US soil against Americans? Irish_Dem Sunday #1

Is it clear? Fiendish Thingy Sunday #2

Thank you, MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #4

Ok, some carry out illegal orders and some don't. 2 Meow Momma Sunday #10

This is what i have slightlv Sunday #14

Thanks. It's like they WANT things to get out of control. paleotn Sunday #15

Apparently carried out by Seal team 6 members. Should they not know better? Bev54 Sunday #22

This was as much trial balloon as incident. / nt bucolic_frolic Sunday #3

This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #5

All involved should go to prison for a very, very long time. Lets hope an international court will get the ball rolling yaesu Sunday #6

Trashing this thread for the nonsense. nt MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #7

Remember the U.S. soldiers who gunned down civilians from Apache helicopters in Baghdad back in 2007? sop Sunday #8

It has always been clear that some will. Look at US history, ffs. RockRaven Sunday #9

Some might not shoot, Dan Sunday #11

And some will shoot with malice and glee. ("When can we start using these?") erronis Sunday #12

Soldiers? What were they doing? Swimming? paleotn Sunday #13

I should have written "service members", not soldiers. 2 Meow Momma Sunday #21

Even if once is too much, two words: Kent State duckworth969 Sunday #16

Two words LilElf70 Sunday #17

Two other words: AverageOldGuy Sunday #18

It is a worry. Aussie105 Sunday #19

And that Admiral COL Mustard Sunday #20

Thank you! I thought I heard that right. nt 2 Meow Momma Sunday #24

Thus far we have BaronChocula Sunday #23

We have them shooting live ammo at protesters not just non lethal. They shot a lady five times and she lived Blues Heron Sunday #28

Yes but BaronChocula Sunday #31

28 of 77 national Guardsmen shot at Kent State, the rest refused. kerry-is-my-prez Sunday #25

That's my thinking too. The military will kill civilians in the US. Bread and Circuses Sunday #26

Correct, there are no orders the military will not follow - which boat strike did they refuse? None of them Blues Heron Sunday #27

The problem is... WHO judges legality? WarGamer Sunday #29

I actually believe soldiers wouldn't carry out that order. PragmaticLiberal Sunday #30

Jesus Fucking Christ.nt LexVegas Sunday #32