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In reply to the discussion: Did the jury dismiss the verdict in the E Jean Caroll rape case? [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(173,410 posts)37. Deadline: Legal Blog--Supreme Court is last stand in E. Jean Carroll's legal vindication against Trump
Trump recently signaled hell ask the Supreme Court to review his previous appeals court loss in the other Carroll case, where she won $5 million.
Will the right-wing Supreme Court majority rule that rape is fine if the rapist is a president and the president rapist should be allowed to defame his victims? Only time will tell.
— @jimrissmiller.bsky.social 2025-09-08T18:18:54.534Z
Supreme Court is last stand in E. Jean Carroll's legal vindication against Trump www.msnbc.com/deadline-whi...
https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/e-jean-carroll-defamation-trump-loses-83-million-rcna229822
In the first of two related cases that went to trial, a jury found Trump liable for sexual assault and defamation and awarded Carroll $5 million. The 2nd Circuit previously upheld those damages in the case in which Trump has a Supreme Court petition due Nov. 10.
In Mondays ruling, the New York-based U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit concluded that the five-figure damages were reasonable in light of the extraordinary and egregious facts of this case. The three-judge panel also rejected Trumps arguments that the Supreme Courts immunity ruling saves him and that the district judge who presided over the case made erroneous legal rulings.....
Mondays decision involves the second of the two cases that went to trial, where a jury awarded Carroll $83.3 million for statements Trump made when he was still in office. The panel rejected his argument that the damages were excessive, reasoning that there was ample evidence that Trump was recklessly indifferent to Carrolls health and safety. The panel noted that his statements had a domino effect, as Carroll was subjected to ongoing and prolific harassment as a result of these statements, including a multitude of death threats and other threats of physical injury.
Trumps conduct supports a significant punitive damages award it involved malice and deceit, caused severe emotional injury, and continued over at least a five-year period, the panel concluded.
The three judges on Mondays panel were appointed by former Presidents Joe Biden and Barack Obama. In the $5 million case thats further along on appeal, Trump had asked the full 2nd Circuit to review the case before taking it to the Supreme Court. The full appeals court declined to do so, but two Trump appointees dissented while suggesting that Trump was treated unfairly. In his forthcoming petition to the justices in that case, his lawyers might seek to highlight that dissent to a likeminded Supreme Court majority. Thats all to say that in both Carroll cases, the appeals courts rejections of Trumps arguments might not be the final word.
In Mondays ruling, the New York-based U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit concluded that the five-figure damages were reasonable in light of the extraordinary and egregious facts of this case. The three-judge panel also rejected Trumps arguments that the Supreme Courts immunity ruling saves him and that the district judge who presided over the case made erroneous legal rulings.....
Mondays decision involves the second of the two cases that went to trial, where a jury awarded Carroll $83.3 million for statements Trump made when he was still in office. The panel rejected his argument that the damages were excessive, reasoning that there was ample evidence that Trump was recklessly indifferent to Carrolls health and safety. The panel noted that his statements had a domino effect, as Carroll was subjected to ongoing and prolific harassment as a result of these statements, including a multitude of death threats and other threats of physical injury.
Trumps conduct supports a significant punitive damages award it involved malice and deceit, caused severe emotional injury, and continued over at least a five-year period, the panel concluded.
The three judges on Mondays panel were appointed by former Presidents Joe Biden and Barack Obama. In the $5 million case thats further along on appeal, Trump had asked the full 2nd Circuit to review the case before taking it to the Supreme Court. The full appeals court declined to do so, but two Trump appointees dissented while suggesting that Trump was treated unfairly. In his forthcoming petition to the justices in that case, his lawyers might seek to highlight that dissent to a likeminded Supreme Court majority. Thats all to say that in both Carroll cases, the appeals courts rejections of Trumps arguments might not be the final word.
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What part of "your acquaintance is wrong" couldn't you understand? (nt)
muriel_volestrangler
Sunday
#45
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Deuxcents
Saturday
#12
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Deuxcents
Saturday
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Sunday
#46
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Attilatheblond
Saturday
#6
He was found *liable* (not guilty, since it was a civil, not criminal case)
Fiendish Thingy
Saturday
#10
The $5 million judgment has been appealed to SCOTUS, but Carroll's opposition isn't due until January
onenote
Saturday
#42
Absolutely not. A jury wouldn't dismiss a verdict anyhow; that's not their job.
Ocelot II
Saturday
#13
Going from memory it may be that her lawyers did not win on the harshest of allegations
AZJonnie
Saturday
#25
Deadline: Legal Blog--Supreme Court is last stand in E. Jean Carroll's legal vindication against Trump
LetMyPeopleVote
Saturday
#37
Washington Post: Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll
CBHagman
Saturday
#39