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37. Deadline: Legal Blog--Supreme Court is last stand in E. Jean Carroll's legal vindication against Trump
Sat Nov 29, 2025, 05:16 PM
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Trump recently signaled he’ll ask the Supreme Court to review his previous appeals court loss in the other Carroll case, where she won $5 million.

Will the right-wing Supreme Court majority rule that rape is fine if the rapist is a president and the president rapist should be allowed to defame his victims? Only time will tell.

Supreme Court is last stand in E. Jean Carroll's legal vindication against Trump www.msnbc.com/deadline-whi...

@jimrissmiller.bsky.social 2025-09-08T18:18:54.534Z

https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/e-jean-carroll-defamation-trump-loses-83-million-rcna229822

In the first of two related cases that went to trial, a jury found Trump liable for sexual assault and defamation and awarded Carroll $5 million. The 2nd Circuit previously upheld those damages in the case in which Trump has a Supreme Court petition due Nov. 10.

In Monday’s ruling, the New York-based U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit concluded that the five-figure damages “were reasonable in light of the extraordinary and egregious facts of this case.” The three-judge panel also rejected Trump’s arguments that the Supreme Court’s immunity ruling saves him and that the district judge who presided over the case made erroneous legal rulings.....

Monday’s decision involves the second of the two cases that went to trial, where a jury awarded Carroll $83.3 million for statements Trump made when he was still in office. The panel rejected his argument that the damages were excessive, reasoning that there was “ample evidence that Trump was recklessly indifferent to Carroll’s health and safety.” The panel noted that his statements “had a domino effect,” as Carroll “was subjected to ongoing and prolific harassment as a result of these statements, including a multitude of death threats and other threats of physical injury.”

Trump’s conduct “supports a significant punitive damages award — it involved malice and deceit, caused severe emotional injury, and continued over at least a five-year period,” the panel concluded.

The three judges on Monday’s panel were appointed by former Presidents Joe Biden and Barack Obama. In the $5 million case that’s further along on appeal, Trump had asked the full 2nd Circuit to review the case before taking it to the Supreme Court. The full appeals court declined to do so, but two Trump appointees dissented while suggesting that Trump was treated unfairly. In his forthcoming petition to the justices in that case, his lawyers might seek to highlight that dissent to a likeminded Supreme Court majority. That’s all to say that in both Carroll cases, the appeals court’s rejections of Trump’s arguments might not be the final word.

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This is not difficult to look up using google. yardwork Saturday #1
Reading legal jargon Sugarcoated Saturday #4
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I'm not as smart as some of you guys Sugarcoated Saturday #9
Um hm. yardwork Saturday #15
Why don't you just answer the question? nt LAS14 Saturday #19
What part of "your acquaintance is wrong" couldn't you understand? (nt) muriel_volestrangler Sunday #45
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Why don't you just answer the question? nt LAS14 Saturday #20
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I'm the same crimycarny Saturday #14
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They didn't say they were asking about a "Trump lie." vanlassie Sunday #56
And several of us are irritated by this concern here. yardwork Sunday #57
If there's something you don't understand, then you need to say what it is muriel_volestrangler Sunday #46
Do you think Trump raped her? Blues Heron Sunday #53
I use DuckDuckGo. It seems to have less bias and doesn't track you like Google does. Attilatheblond Saturday #6
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Search in DU on E Jene Carrol. haele Saturday #2
E. Jean Carroll. yardwork Saturday #8
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No problem, it just struck me as funny.... haele Sunday #54
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No. The election interference case i GA was dismissed though Attilatheblond Saturday #3
Thanks for the reply Sugarcoated Saturday #21
No, it has not been dismissed videohead5 Saturday #5
I didn't think so Sugarcoated Saturday #22
He was found *liable* (not guilty, since it was a civil, not criminal case) Fiendish Thingy Saturday #10
So frustrating, gets away with so much Sugarcoated Saturday #16
Well, everyone has the right to an appeal Fiendish Thingy Saturday #18
The $5 million judgment has been appealed to SCOTUS, but Carroll's opposition isn't due until January onenote Saturday #42
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Absolutely not. A jury wouldn't dismiss a verdict anyhow; that's not their job. Ocelot II Saturday #13
Thanks for the reply, appreciate it Sugarcoated Saturday #17
Status of Trump appeal of verdict in E. Jean Carroll case onenote Saturday #41
Going from memory it may be that her lawyers did not win on the harshest of allegations AZJonnie Saturday #25
Thank you for the very detailed response Sugarcoated Saturday #27
The Trumpster is lying. Emile Saturday #26
Always Sugarcoated Saturday #28
I don't think drmeow Saturday #31
Juries render verdicts. After they have done so, they are discharged. rsdsharp Saturday #32
Juries render verdicts, Judges dismiss cases. marble falls Saturday #36
Juries Don't RobinA Saturday #35
Deadline: Legal Blog--Supreme Court is last stand in E. Jean Carroll's legal vindication against Trump LetMyPeopleVote Saturday #37
Washington Post: Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll CBHagman Saturday #39
Yes the judge did clarify this LetMyPeopleVote Sunday #52
Jesus Christ. nt LexVegas Saturday #40
Exactly. /nt yardwork Sunday #51
No, they did not Bettie Sunday #47
No. The jury found in Carroll's favor. Trump is asking the Supreme Court to overturn this judgement. Eugene Sunday #55
To answer your question choie Sunday #58
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