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In reply to the discussion: Why Not Following Illegal Orders Is Important [View all]Cirsium
(3,245 posts)The My Lai massacre was it the only case of illegal orders in the Viet Nam war, far from it. Illegal orders and the commission of war crimes were routine throughout the conflict. I agree that people should know about it, but they should know the full picture. Focusing on My Lai give people the impression that the massacre was the extent of the crimes committed, which is far from true.
We know this from the Army's own records, the Vietnam War Crimes Working Group, impaneled in the Army Chief of Staffs office. Their reports document reports of massacres, murders, rape, torture, assault, and mutilation. The purpose of the working group was not to prevent atrocities, not to punish wrong doers, but rather to get ahead of any stories that might lead to bad publicity and to bury the stories as much as possible.
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What I was told in the countryside was beyond my ability to grasp, something that I could have never have gotten from the records. And I would talk to Vietnamese who would tell me about what it was like just to try and eke out an existence in the war zone. About having their home burned down five, six seven times. And then finally giving up rebuilding and starting to live a semi-subterranean life in their bomb shelter. About how they figured out ways to get out of that shelter, to get water or food or relieve themselves. And how their entire lives were just predicated on figuring out a way not to get killed. They would talk about artillery called down on a hamlet, and they would run into the bomb shelter. And stay there. And then this whole calculus would begin where they would try and figure out exactly when the right time to leave that shelter was. You had to wait until the artillery shelling stopped, but you couldnt leave too soon or you were apt to be cut down by a helicopter gunship that was flying overhead. You had to make sure you werent caught in a crossfire between departing guerrillas and the onrushing Americans. But you couldnt stay down there too long because the Americans were coming, and they would start rolling grenades into the bomb shelters because they saw them as possible enemy bunkers, fighting positions. There all of these decisions to be made, and it wasnt just your life that depended on making it, but maybe your entire family. The whole family could get wiped out if you left a second too early or a second too late.
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There was also an active trade in body parts in Vietnam. Ears were worn on necklaces, one ear or maybe even a whole chain of ears. Some guys wore these to show their combat prowess. Others would collect these ears and sell them to people who wanted to project this image. In one unit they were cutting off the heads of enemies, and anyone who presented it to the commander got an extra beer ration. In one case, a sergeant had cut off a head and he boiled the flesh of it, and then traded the skull for a radio.
They were forced into catering to the US war machine one way or another, and one of the prime ways was prostitution. A lot of girls who were sent to it, their villages had been destroyed and they were forced into the cities. And this was a way to provide for their families. The Americans had lots of money to spend and these were young guys, 18, 19, 20 years old. So it was this flourishing sex trade and then out in the countryside there was what seems to be a tremendous amount of rape and sexual assault. What I found was extremely disturbing. I recount a few cases where the sexual violence is really shocking. A lot of times I found myself, I felt I didnt have the language to describe exactly what I found in the cases, because rape or even gang rape didnt seem to convey the level of sexual sadism. These are extremely violent gang rapes, or raping women with inanimate objects like bottles or even rifles.
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