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haele

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16. When I was growing up, the general assumption was

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Fri Nov 21, 2025, 12:39 PM

Nov 21

20% of the population would be radically Progressive, 20% of the population would be Radically Authoritarian, and 60% of the people were "the Herd" - generally helpful, blindly passive, or nasty depending on how they felt that day and how the people around them were acting.

All that being said, the "Herd" at the time considered themselves a community and were generally helpful - so long as community prejudices weren't being challenged.
The way to break up the Herd and allow Authoritarianism and Oligarchy to take over is to dull critical thinking, increase cynicism, and use the normal community prejudices to turn people against their own communities.
And that's what is happening now.

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Why Trump Has A Floor Of Thirty Percent Support [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Nov 21 OP

That thirty percent are his people. pwb Nov 21 #1

But he lost half his people in the Republican civil war womanofthehills Nov 21 #13

True, but Shipwack Nov 21 #35

Have you heard of "kayfabe"? 'Cause what you described smells like kayfabe. 0rganism Nov 21 #36

Our educational system has failed. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 21 #2

as a career educator I'm afraid I have to agree, but with caveats mike_c Nov 21 #22

I have three adult sons Diamond_Dog Nov 21 #38

As a retired reading specialist... maddiemom Nov 21 #44

My mother was a remedial reading teacher. Diamond_Dog Nov 21 #45

My second son was dyslexic Jilly_in_VA Nov 21 #52

An amazing number of celebrities and other public figures... maddiemom Nov 23 #54

In my personal experience, conservatives love a "strongman". Midnight Writer Nov 21 #3

Many Republicans over on X are hating Trump womanofthehills Nov 21 #14

I would have thought it would be higher than that. nt iemanja Nov 21 #4

Four in ten is pretty high and frightening. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 21 #5

Do you mean contemporary German elections? iemanja Nov 21 #7

1930s. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 21 #8

I believe it's lower than that. gab13by13 Nov 21 #9

I'm talking about authoritarianist tendencies iemanja Nov 21 #19

Meh. Trump's MAGA just hate just LiBeraLs leftstreet Nov 21 #6

MAGAS hate small l liberals because they oppose authoritarianism. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 21 #10

Not sure what they hate the most leftstreet Nov 21 #11

Stop posting AI summaries as news or editorials. intheflow Nov 21 #12

AI is here to stay ands it's fast womanofthehills Nov 21 #17

Thank you. If I would have posted the numbers I would have been asked for a source. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 21 #18

Thanks. intheflow Nov 21 #39

Unless your name is EarlG, I don't think that's your call. People generally Maru Kitteh Nov 21 #26

That *is* my opinion. intheflow Nov 21 #42

The DSB of of old would have reacted poorly. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 21 #53

and it comes up with "26 percent of U.S. respondents were 'highly right-wing authoritarian' compared to other countries" thesquanderer Nov 21 #30

Just like every society has 20 percent needing support, they also have 30 percent assholes. TheBlackAdder Nov 21 #15

When I was growing up, the general assumption was haele Nov 21 #16

I would bet that these numbers would hold around the same for every human population you look at AZJonnie Nov 21 #20

That 1/3 breakdown seems to happen a lot in different situations. Collimator Nov 21 #34

I think it is part of our psyche, but also reflective of the fact that what is not binary tends to be a continuum AZJonnie Nov 21 #41

I'm not a mathematician or a trained artist. . . Collimator Nov 21 #46

Without looking it up and instead relying on memory here AZJonnie Nov 21 #47

So, I looked up how the Golden Ratio works/what it is and its relation to Fibonacci Sequence AZJonnie Nov 21 #51

The non-stop 24/7 propaganda apparatus keeps the floor at a hard 25-35% FrankBooth Nov 21 #21

People who represent those percentages are charter members of the dobleremolque Nov 21 #23

Because that's also the same amount who are glued to Fox 24 hours a day. Initech Nov 21 #24

I would happily deport 30% of authoritarian dreamers. BComplex Nov 21 #25

his "floor" is 100% white "christian" nationalists Nigrum Cattus Nov 21 #27

Personally, I don't want that 1/3 tearing down my and your United States/America. chouchou Nov 21 #28

30% of Americans are hardcore bigots BlueWaveNeverEnd Nov 21 #29

OK, but are they good with a dangerously stupid authoritarian who is screwing THEM left and right? William Seger Nov 21 #31

30% support for authoritarianism is common across many nations. unblock Nov 21 #32

Nixon always retained 25-30% support to the end Arazi Nov 21 #33

Morons will be morons until something happens to them. mdbl Nov 21 #37

"Why Trump Has A Floor Of Thirty Percent Support." Botany Nov 21 #40

Forget what an AI regurgitation machine says - listen to the blog wisdom of 20 years: it's the 27% crazification factor muriel_volestrangler Nov 21 #43

The 30% are bubble people. kacekwl Nov 21 #48

Authoritarians I_UndergroundPanther Nov 21 #49

The US is one of the churchiest countries remaining Bluetus Nov 21 #50

Trump supporters are the 1/3 that would round up and kill 1/3 while the last 1/3 watches. LudwigPastorius Nov 23 #55