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In reply to the discussion: They're going to die. [View all]

W_HAMILTON

(9,579 posts)
56. A distinction without a difference in the vast majority of cases.
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 03:45 PM
2 hrs ago

For traditional Medicare to be most effective and cost-efficient, you need supplemental insurance.

If you start on traditional Medicare when you are eligible and sign up for a supplemental plan, I believe you cannot be turned down, your premiums are based on your age, and future premium increases are also tied to your age (rather than how sick you are/how much you utilize the insurance).

Contrast that with a Medicare Advantage plan, where once you are on it, you are most likely on it for life because you CAN be turned down if you switch back to traditional Medicare and try to buy a supplemental plan then. Your medical history will be used against you and even if you are the healthiest person on the planet, you are at least 65+. Think it was tough buying a plan on the individual market when you were in your 40s? Imagine that, but being aged 70, 80, etc. and almost assuredly with some health conditions that will result in you being considered a high risk.

I have dealt with this intimately twice now, when I was a caregiver for my mom and then when I helped my sister get connected with a Medicare broker to assist her in signing up.

DO NOT SIGN UP FOR MEDICARE ADVANTAGE.

Sure, it has a lot of added perks and other bells and whistles and seems great -- until you actually really need to use it. Like when someone has a stroke and they are in no shape to leave the skilled nursing facility they are currently in, but AI at a for-profit insurance company decided it's time to kick them out. Then you are left being a 24/7 caregiver for a bedbound stroke victim that can't do anything on their own.

No non-medical professional is ready for that and the last few months of my mom's life were made so much more difficult and stressful than they should have been. End-of-life is going to be tough regardless, but Medicare Advantage turned it into a nightmare.

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They're going to die. [View all] applegrove 22 hrs ago OP
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well, believe me Skittles 21 hrs ago #5
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actually you CAN go back to regular Medicare Skittles 20 hrs ago #13
You may have to do so during open enrollment soldierant 19 hrs ago #31
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it's shouldn't have Medicare in the name at all Skittles 2 hrs ago #48
If intent on using Medicare,MedicareLESS would have been an option. BattleRow 2 hrs ago #49
MA Private insurance companies driven by profit kkmarie 2 hrs ago #52
more likely Skittles 2 hrs ago #54
They ARE scams BlueKentuckyGirl 2 hrs ago #55
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A distinction without a difference in the vast majority of cases. W_HAMILTON 2 hrs ago #56
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She could be a senior who is not yet MontanaMama 6 hrs ago #43
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I got a notice about two months ago dhol82 21 hrs ago #7
Sorry, that should be the medigap plan from United healthcare dhol82 21 hrs ago #8
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She implies she is on Medicare with an additional plan. applegrove 20 hrs ago #11
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Thanks! Bread and Circuses 19 hrs ago #29
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