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markodochartaigh

(4,229 posts)
6. The kakistocratic toadies
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 11:51 PM
9 hrs ago

that Trump has already put in place may well be only the scab on the wound. Remember Project 2025?
"Trump’s supporters say Schedule F would cover about 50,000 federal employees, but unions representing federal workers say it would cover many times that. Currently, approximately 4,000 federal positions are subject to presidential appointment. Trump’s allies are said to have compiled a list of 20,000 loyalists who could quickly move into federal jobs in a new Trump administration."

Let's be very optimistic and say that the Democratic party takes the House in 2026, and the presidency and Senate in 2028. Let's say that there is a huge enough blue wave to give the Democratic party a two-thirds majority in both houses. Let's say that the groundswell of Democratic fervor changes the minds of enough Democratic congress members to expand the supreme court.

Would a Democratic president fire the thousands (tens of thousands) of sycophantic appointees?

How many of the employees previously fired by Trump would be willing to return to their old jobs and pick up the pieces?

Those agencies weren't built overnight. Maybe if all of those conditions, election of Democratic politicians, supreme court expansion, etc. were met, and if the Republicans were not able to gain enough votes in either the Senate or House to block recovery, I would say maybe a decade, since we are basically talking about wonderland here.

Of course our relationships with other countries, our dollar hegemony, probably our scientific hegemony, those are gone for good. We'll still have (American) football so most Americans won't really care.

I know that many people prefer to always look on the bright side, and for most of the last seven decades that perspective was validated. But it was validated because of conditions which are gone and will never recur.
I think that we should look reality in the eye and fight like hell precisely because things look so bleak.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/25/project-2025-trump-plan-fire-civil-service-employees

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We are looking at the Second Great Reconstruction. WheelWalker 9 hrs ago #1
Hopefully it will go better than the first reconstruction choie 8 hrs ago #12
The next president will have to be willing to overtly defy court orders from Trump-judges Justice Brandeis 9 hrs ago #2
It's going to have to take a massive, dramatic change in society. Initech 9 hrs ago #3
I question if it's possible. Where is the money now to put back into budgets? Melon 9 hrs ago #4
Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg and Ellison stole it all. Initech 8 hrs ago #16
It took FDR 3 full terms and a major war to correct the RW Great Depression... Wounded Bear 9 hrs ago #5
The kakistocratic toadies markodochartaigh 9 hrs ago #6
Optimistically? Decades. At the very least. Orrex 9 hrs ago #7
Probably decades, as the USSC is a lifetime appointment sakabatou 9 hrs ago #8
It will never happen. The US has been cultivating these folks for 45 years. They are walkingman 9 hrs ago #9
A century or two. sinkingfeeling 9 hrs ago #10
The stench of his maladminstration, and B.See 8 hrs ago #11
Not until they all die out. choie 8 hrs ago #13
The deliberate destruction of all our federal infrastructure won't be reversed in my lifetime... Hekate 8 hrs ago #14
The problem is we will be bankrupt Tree Lady 8 hrs ago #15
I am concerned how we are going to do that in the first place at this point LyfeTimeDem 8 hrs ago #17
I agree. I think we are screwed Wifes husband 7 hrs ago #18
Not possible. The U.S. experiment failed. Time to come up with something new. Blasphemer 7 hrs ago #19
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