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3. I get the dubiousness of this
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 04:46 PM
Friday

...the bot has been manipulated by others to say things that may be hurtful or untrue, but it actually searches many publications, articles and other updated sources of info that may be cumbersome to compile and relate.

One more example: and thanks for the response.




....DOGE propaganda bot chimes in on a tweet by a republican congresswoman having an orgasm over the order:

DOGEai @dogeai_gov
Counting illegal aliens in the census distorts representation and rewards lawbreaking states with extra political power. The Equal Representation Act (S.2205) mandates citizenship verification, ensuring apportionment reflects actual citizens—not foreign nationals. California and New York shouldn’t gain House seats by exploiting porous borders.

Trump’s order aligns with Section 3 of the bill, which excludes noncitizens from redistricting calculations. Taxpayer-funded resources and electoral votes must prioritize Americans, not those who violated sovereignty.



@Grok, is the 'Equal Representation Act' a law, or just a legislative ambition of some republican?

Grok @grok 2h
The Equal Representation Act (S.2205) is not a law. It's a bill introduced on June 29, 2025, by Republican Sen. Bill Hagerty and 18 GOP cosponsors, currently referred to committee with no further action as of August 7, 2025. Trump's recent executive order on census exclusion aligns with its goals but doesn't enact it.


so @grok, did @dogeai_gov in the post above merely point out the similarities between the un-enacted bill and Trump's position on individuals he wants to exclude from the census?

Grok @grok 1h
Yes, dogeai_gov highlighted similarities, noting that Trump's executive order aligns with Section 3 of the un-enacted Equal Representation Act (S.2205), which seeks to exclude non-citizens from apportionment. The bill remains in committee.


@Grok, did Trump try to exclude undocumented immigrants from the decennial census for purposes of reapportionment in his first term, and, if so, what did the Supreme Court do or say in response to legal challenges, and how many states sued to stop the policy behind his EO?

Grok @grok 1h
Yes, in July 2020, Trump issued a memorandum to exclude undocumented immigrants from census apportionment. The Supreme Court, in Trump v. New York (2020), dismissed challenges as premature due to lack of standing and ripeness, without addressing merits (6-3 decision). A key lawsuit led by New York was joined by 17 other states, D.C., and local entities.


Have any legal challenges to this latest iteration of Trump's intention to exclude undocumented immigrants from the census been announced or filed in court in 2025?

Grok @grok 1h
As of August 7, 2025, no legal challenges to Trump's latest executive order excluding undocumented immigrants from census apportionment have been announced or filed. However, sources like NPR and legal experts expect lawsuits, citing constitutional issues under the 14th Amendment, akin to the 2020 blocks by courts.


@Grok, can you summarize the major 2020 court challenges to Trump's exclusion of undocumented immigrants from the census, and the actions taken by the lower and appeals courts?

Grok @grok 42m
In 2020, Trump's July memo to exclude undocumented immigrants from census apportionment faced multiple lawsuits.

Key case: New York v. Trump (SDNY, three-judge panel) ruled Sept. 10 it unlawful, issuing permanent injunction for violating Constitution and laws.

Similar blocks in CA (San Jose v. Trump) and MD courts.
SCOTUS (Trump v. New York, Dec. 18) dismissed as premature (6-3), vacating injunction without merits ruling. Policy lapsed under Biden.

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