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karynnj

(60,569 posts)
21. I would contest that she had the most consequences
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 03:02 PM
Friday

Bill Clinton and through him the country paid a very high price.

For Clinton personally, it means that though he was a successful two term President, it unfortunately will likely be the case that most mainstream obituaries will mention the scandal and that he was impeached. By his own account, he for at least some period of time nearly lost his marriage. He had some in his administration leave.

For the country and the world, his transgression may have cost Gore the Presidency. Consider that Bush, who had drinking problems until he was 40 ran on bringing decency back to the White House - even as he ran against Eagle Scout Gore. It has since then likely made his strong voice less compelling to some who were not Democrats.

I think what he did was stupid and beyond wrong. However, both of them were adults and it apparently started when she flashed her thong. What still surprises me is that this did not lead to her immediate removal for inappropriate behavior. It does suggest that Clinton's closest people may have seen this as a Clinton norm.

It also seems that had she wanted, she could have dropped her first name in favor of her middle name, changed her hair style, color etc and gone about applying for jobs or higher education. She seems to have often used that short period of her life to be a media person etc. She did not have that many accomplishments when the scandal happened. Her internship happened because her stepdad was a big donor.

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Remembering Lewinsky drmeow Friday #1
Lewinsky was no Anita Hill and not a victim of any sort. valleyrogue Friday #12
This message was self-deleted by its author quaint Friday #20
Lewinsky was a victim mr715 Friday #26
If I recall she made it her mission to have her "encounter" with Bill Clinton. CentralMass Friday #33
Bill Clinton is batman smart. mr715 Friday #36
Bill was was also a "dog". CentralMass Friday #37
Yup mr715 Friday #39
Part of a long history of Blaming the Victim multigraincracker Friday #2
Lewinsky Is Not RobinA Friday #22
I think there are a lot of 24 year old females capable of making poor decisions mr715 Friday #30
But most of us didn't spend the rest of our lives capitalizing on it. Biophilic Friday #34
Given the chance, I'm sure many people would mr715 Friday #35
Setting her sights on one man Oeditpus Rex Friday #59
You think she'd be framed any differently? mr715 Friday #60
Which news broadcast Oeditpus Rex Friday #61
It certainly was subtext. As it is here. mr715 Friday #62
Where does one find 'subtext' in a news report? Oeditpus Rex Saturday #64
This message was self-deleted by its author mr715 Saturday #66
it's utterly ridiculous Skittles Friday #49
I so agree with you. llmart Friday #55
they're consenting adults but they are both disgusting Skittles Friday #56
Linda Tripp included in that disgusting behavior also. llmart Friday #57
Linda Tripp AND Lucianne Goldberg exploited oasis Saturday #65
Not that I'm excusing Bill, but... Happy Hoosier Friday #3
She was a groupie. She took after her mother. valleyrogue Friday #5
I was, and did... Happy Hoosier Friday #7
Evidence he was a "horndog" other than the GOP smears valleyrogue Friday #9
Gennifer Flowers, Elizabeth Gracen, Dolly Browning, and Sally Perdue EdmondDantes_ Friday #14
Bill Clinton has a long history of cheating, it wasn't a slip up EdmondDantes_ Friday #11
Shame on you. The impeachment was political bullshit. So is piling on Lewinsky. marble falls Friday #47
Yes. obnoxiousdrunk Friday #51
It Was RobinA Friday #23
The Big Dog nt mr715 Friday #31
I hope people aren't buying what she is trying to sell. valleyrogue Friday #4
Her flashing her thong at him as an invitation for a "relationship." badhair77 Friday #6
People need to remember those inconvenient details and tell the younger generation valleyrogue Friday #8
She actually went back to DC to become an intern valleyrogue Friday #10
Most 5 year olds know that it is inappropriate to show your underwear... 3catwoman3 Friday #50
Yes, she had a show that was planned for release around 2016/2017 JI7 Friday #19
Monica and her "presidential knee pads", as I recall bagimin Friday #13
I find it hilarious the way people still go to bat for Bill Clinton's personal reputation, myself. WhiskeyGrinder Friday #15
It's Not Going To Bat RobinA Friday #25
Looks like Clinton was the obnoxiousdrunk Friday #53
Well, many of the replies in this thread are appalliing obamanut2012 Friday #16
+1 (I am not surprised, though) demmiblue Friday #27
Right? mr715 Friday #28
HUGELY appalling. marble falls Friday #48
it's pretty simple Skittles Friday #58
I can't think of anything more pressing in today's world. BannonsLiver Friday #17
THANK YOU Skittles Friday #52
History was made by a blue dress and a naughty lady. Ping Tung Friday #18
I would contest that she had the most consequences karynnj Friday #21
A lot of dead Iraqis because of her SamuelTheThird Friday #24
Gore probably would have won. mr715 Friday #29
Hey I'm a life long snowybirdie Friday #32
Actually, she hit on Clinton. PragmaticLiberal Friday #41
Okay snowybirdie Friday #54
Clinton was totally wrong Traildogbob Friday #38
It was more than 1 beej mr715 Friday #40
You are right Traildogbob Friday #42
You may remember the gross cigar story. mr715 Friday #43
I do! Traildogbob Friday #44
Ooof mr715 Friday #45
Hillary had to compete with Monica. Laura had to compete with Jeff Gannon. Melania is still competing, but weakly. Norrrm Friday #46
The MAGAt Republicans MorbidButterflyTat Friday #63
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