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Scrivener7

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27. Will you stop asking every poster who makes a salient point if they're saying we should give up? OBVIOUSLY

Thu Sep 25, 2025, 10:06 AM

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no one is saying that.

Can the rest of us have a conversation, please?

Usonian asked an excellent question that we need to consider: "What institutions still have any power for us to use?"

And Cosmocat rightly pointed out that David Brooks is not our friend and we should read him with caution. He is part of the reason where we are where we are. And we are in a dire place.

NO ONE is saying we should give up.

This habit of a few people here who accuse others of giving up or being bad Democrats when they say anything other than, "Democrats are doing great and all is well and we the people are rising up! Lalala!" is crazy.

There are practical considerations. We are not doing great. Our Democracy is being dismantled. If we the people are going to succeed, we need to consider those practical considerations, and that doesn't make us bad Democrats.

Talk about purity tests.

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from David Brooks, OpEd in the NY Times: [View all] elleng Wednesday OP

So here's a question, and I'll leave it out there. usonian Wednesday #1

You are not wrong Cosmocat Wednesday #4

In the 2nd admin he, and his minions, have complete control of the power infrastructure. Boomerproud Wednesday #6

What's your point? Are you saying we should give up? Are you saying there is no hope? Bernardo de La Paz Wednesday #9

Just asking people who or what has the leverage. usonian Wednesday #15

It's you. The citizens of the United States have the leverage, even when all else fails, at above 3.5 pcent Bernardo de La Paz Wednesday #16

Check my posts in Activist Headquarters. usonian Wednesday #17

Cheers! . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Wednesday #18

Are there protests if the media keeps pretending there aren't any? Autumn Thursday #38

The people see the people protesting. Even right wing sites comment on it, so even the Fox tunnel vision crowd know Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #40

Most young people I know don't get weekends off. And if they do Autumn Thursday #42

Wise words from David Brooks.. TY Cha Wednesday #2

Fuck David Brooks Cosmocat Wednesday #3

We need to join with every single David Brooks out there, because they're the ones that have a chance pnwmom Wednesday #5

Exactly. This started with Reagan and the gaslighting .... Bread and Circuses Wednesday #7

Are you saying we should give up because it is lost? And that we should attack everyone who fails a purity test? Bernardo de La Paz Wednesday #10

Of course not. yardwork Wednesday #12

Im saying hes a pos Cosmocat Wednesday #19

Will you stop asking every poster who makes a salient point if they're saying we should give up? OBVIOUSLY Scrivener7 Thursday #27

I'm not doing that. OBVIOUSLY I"m not saying that. And the poster did not say what you say they said. Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #30

OBVIOUSLY I don't disagree with any of your purity test questions. So congratulations. Scrivener7 Thursday #31

As to the straw man you set up and demolished ... Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #32

Twice in this thread you asked people if they were telling us to give up because they Scrivener7 Thursday #33

Again you soft-pedal absolutist doomerism as "not doing the cheerleader thing". . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #36

Yep. I do. Because people are on this site for a reason. And sometimes the terror Scrivener7 Thursday #37

As I recall he's always been anti trump Purity mucifer Wednesday #20

He aint us Cosmocat Wednesday #21

That does seem to be the world's most popular excuse these days Torchlight Thursday #43

David Brooks voted for Obama and Biden. summer_in_TX Thursday #22

I am well aware of those other convervatives Cosmocat Thursday #24

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend." summer_in_TX Thursday #44

just this week he implied that the MAGA uprising is caused by the progressives having control over media BlueWaveNeverEnd Thursday #23

THIS Cosmocat Thursday #25

He ALWAYS does that. Sounds reasonable at first, then tells us it's Democrats' faults. Scrivener7 Thursday #28

Yes!!!! Underneath his facade of reasonableness, he is a sneaky rightwinger BlueWaveNeverEnd Thursday #34

A human trojan horse. Scrivener7 Thursday #35

A tool who has done more damage displacedvermoter Thursday #26

You sure as hell are 100% correct. Autumn Thursday #39

So Dave Brooks is part of Antifa now?🤣 Crunchy Frog Wednesday #8

Did David have any harsh words for all the Republicans that continue to enable Trump? tanyev Wednesday #11

Dude who mislead people in politics his whole Johonny Wednesday #13

I'm not even going to waste time reading it. Paladin Wednesday #14

This is guy who was whining about inflation during Biden's term Ritabert Thursday #29

Correct - he is THAT guy Cosmocat Thursday #41