Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Cosmocat

(15,290 posts)
21. He absolutely was incredibly influential
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 08:39 AM
Thursday

A LONG time ago, Ronald Reagen changed the game by pulling the blue collar workers into the the right wing fold by subtly using the dog whistles with his gee golly, aw shucks demeanor. That gave the them the pretense to choose racism, bigotry and hatred over their own best interests. Obviously his big pull came as POTUS, but even before being governor he was a noted right wing commentator - people have shared his record about the evils of socialized medicine long before he became an actual elected official.

Keep in mind that Kirk came into prominence just as the internet grew to prominence, and people, particularly young people were moving in mass away from traditional TV / media into their desired silos online.

SO ... it was harder to see. But, he absolutely was the "star" conservative for the younger generation, leaping over the likes of Shapiro and Fuentes.

Now, someone else commented that by and large his following were children of established republicans. That is true, but he created the community and sense of togetherness for them all - faux christianity as the cover for seeming racism, or simply put white supremecy- and as the other commentator noted, infused it with politics and activated them to actually vote.

And, again, while some on our side struggle to see it, this all has nearly as much appeal to white women as it does white men. Yes, he preached subservience of women to men, but they never feel as though all that shit holds for them. Its like the mob, everyone is full in while knowing their place in things.

I cautioned repeatedly here prior to the election that DT had more support than people thought, because it was very clear if you just looked around you. Here in our modest middle income development, nearly every young family that has moved in over the last half decade are Charlie Kirk types. We came here earlier in the 2000s and while the area is right leaning, we saw a fairly broad mix of people coming in prior to that period.

They aren't MAGA idiots wearing red hats and being all infantile. They are low key, kind of keep to themselves and those who are like minded. But, you can feel it with them. And, I know any others in our area.

Now, of course all their over the top BS about martyring and making him into an America hero is just what they do, now more than ever, and he was a malignant force all along. And, end of the day, it really doesn't make difference because they are going to keep moving along regardless. But, if you can't see these things they sneak up on you, you are surprised or don't know exactly what you are dealing with.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

I think so Jilly_in_VA Sep 21 #1
i think, Codifer Sep 21 #2
"Charlie would have had a money changing booth in the temple." 3catwoman3 Thursday #33
So, how about those Bears? EnergizedLib Sep 21 #3
MAGA nut-jobs were bonkers when Rush died..but then, Hallelujah! ..Charlie Kirk was on the job!. chouchou Sep 21 #4
He seemed to be a skilled debater who could make his opposites look foolish. Turbineguy Sep 21 #5
He was very good "debating" college students TexasBushwhacker Sep 21 #7
this Iris Thursday #16
He really would have been nothing TexasBushwhacker Thursday #23
One-trick pony Walleye Thursday #35
who is the most mentioned person today on dems/leftist internet sites? overhyped lol nt msongs Sep 21 #6
Mentions Do Not Mean Someone is Not Overrated/Overhyped erpowers Wednesday #13
fucking depraved asshole NewHendoLib Sep 21 #8
McCoy tells Kirk he's dead struggle4progress Sep 21 #9
He's even the most-trending on imdb. wtf? Beartracks Sep 21 #10
He mostly appealed to those that are already right wing leaning JI7 Sep 21 #11
Totally agree, all MAGAt/Fundie pandering. Here's what I re-posted: UTUSN Sep 21 #12
100% what you describe! oasis Thursday #19
He is just flavor of the month. The Grand Illuminist Wednesday #14
Yeah. Xolodno Thursday #15
His face looked like a desiccated pumpkin. 617Blue Thursday #17
Right-wing shitstirrers are a dime a dozen. Dulcinea Thursday #18
His main message was that women are inferior. yardwork Thursday #20
He absolutely was incredibly influential Cosmocat Thursday #21
I think he's dead. Iggo Thursday #22
I can't help but be reminded of "Ferris Buehler's Day Off." GoCubsGo Thursday #24
Little conservative Mormon gun nut, murders Emile Thursday #25
The acceptance by so many young people for this hate monger worries me. walkingman Thursday #26
Both. Dan Barker (Freedom from Religion) no_hypocrisy Thursday #27
He always had home field and heavily edited it. underpants Thursday #31
My God, you should see Fox News Facebook feed underpants Thursday #28
Post doesn't equal people. I'm on FB a lot and there Phoenix61 Thursday #36
These were from Fox News officially underpants Thursday #39
I'm going to ask a slightly different question. Cui Bono? Who benefits ? CincyDem Thursday #29
He's a useful dead idiot. Dave Bowman Thursday #30
Yes it was and still is. OLDMDDEM Thursday #32
He was another George Lincoln Rockwell struggle4progress Thursday #34
Kirk was a contrarian dimwit. He stood in opposition to common sense. Klarkashton Thursday #37
It was very satisfying to see 20 year old Feminist Progressive Tilly Middlebrooks totally destroy Kirk in debate YorkRd Thursday #38
Wow, she kicked ass! Emile Thursday #42
It could have been a GOP insect and they would have glorified it. GreenWave Thursday #40
The coverage of his death and reaction were unjustified AStern Thursday #41
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Charlie Kirk: Overrated/O...»Reply #21