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In reply to the discussion: I've finally come around on secession [View all]AdamGG
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I have mixed feelings because although I would like living in a Republic of New England that governed according to principles I agree with, I think this fragmenting of the US would be what Putin would want most of all.
The fact is that even after Trump, the MAGA right and people like them, with governance that will cut taxes on billionaires and cut meaningful services and potentially misuses the government to reward their cronies and attack their enemies is always going to be with us.
Some new enlightened US Republics (New England, NY, West coast, Minnesota, Colorado) that have close ties with Canada and western Europe might be preferable. But, I'm not sure that secession is realistic (tried once and failed big time) and many people in blue areas within red states would lose out. For states with drastic splits like downstate Illinois, would they split the state? What about states that teeter on the edge of blue/red like Wisconsin/Virginia/Georgia/North Carolina/Michigan/Arizona/Nevada?
The idea seems like a pipe dream. I think we're better off fighting to establish a 53/47 lead in the US as a whole and what Trump is doing is really discouraging for the prospect of rooting out corruption and getting money out of politics. If I was younger and had the resources, I'd probably try to move to Scandanavia or somewhere because the US seems long term fucked.
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