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usonian

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19. There is a deep "values" gap.
Sun Sep 21, 2025, 01:13 PM
Sep 21

Last edited Sun Sep 21, 2025, 04:49 PM - Edit history (1)

Certain values are inherent in all of us (believe it or not) such as fairness and compassion. Sympathy is in fact wired into our nervous systems except among a few who lack such wiring.

And that's the point. Those people hijack others' minds by flooding the limbic system ( "fight or flight" ) with fear, uncertainty and doubt, and override both the sympathetic and rational processes (This is highly simplified)

And they manipulate them like sock puppets.

The rational point is that they are losers, conned into thinking they are winners.

Hate is not happiness, and that rewiring of neurons is damn hard to undo.

To seek first to blame rather than process is the mental shortcut the controllers desire.

Now, before psych grads flame me, (come on, I can see it coming), just correct. I'm a physics grad, not a psych grad and whatever I learned is a survival tool that has kept me alive for a long time.

A difference in values is the root cause and hard to change. Most people need a flash of blinding light on the road to Damascus. Or a trip to the municipality of "rock bottom" to see how they were played.

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Maybe petition the admins for a CommonGround forum? BoRaGard Sep 21 #1
What a good idea! How does one petition the Admins? A DU Mail to Earl?? nt LAS14 Sep 21 #2
Oh for God's sake Prairie Gates Sep 21 #3
Is there an emoji for "See what I mean?" nt LAS14 Sep 21 #4
discussion about 'common ground' - or even its potential or existance? - on certain topic/issues stopdiggin Sep 21 #8
"Looking for possible points of common ground." J_William_Ryan Sep 21 #5
Maybe us on it and them rzemanfl Sep 21 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author rzemanfl Sep 21 #7
health care? tax breaks for the 1%? schools? policing? stopdiggin Sep 21 #14
Such as when Neville Chamberlain found common ground with Hitler SocialDemocrat61 Sep 21 #21
I live in Texas BigMin28 Sep 21 #9
Why? The "Right's" point of view is not concealed. MineralMan Sep 21 #10
Such generalization doesn't lead anywhere good. nt LAS14 Sep 21 #24
OK, so where are you planning to lead us? MineralMan Sep 21 #28
A How Not to be a Horrible Person forum sounds like a starting place, but taxi Sep 21 #11
Wouldn't that be the "Way Forward" forum? hunter Sep 21 #12
What is the example of an issue Bettie Sep 21 #13
Problem is, the Right has been taken over by a Cult. haele Monday #43
How do you find common ground SocialDemocrat61 Sep 21 #15
Do you mean economic issues? leftstreet Sep 21 #16
DU has a clear set of rules Quiet Em Sep 21 #17
What are you talking about? mr715 Sep 21 #18
There is a deep "values" gap. usonian Sep 21 #19
On demestic issues, I don't see it. Prairie_Seagull Sep 21 #20
I'm reading a book by a journalist on polarization but know if quotes from it were posted here the betsuni Sep 21 #22
What you're looking for. Bravo Duck Sep 21 #23
Sorry - I meant this as a reply to the thread, not to an individual. nt LAS14 Sep 21 #26
Virtually every late night comedian is college educated Arazi Sep 21 #29
I honestly cannot see finding "common ground" with nazis Skittles Sep 21 #38
They voted for a felon and sexual abuser. Some of them are drifting away from Trump on their own. chowder66 Sep 21 #25
In reply to requests for examples. LAS14 Sep 21 #27
As I replied elsewhere - there are far right conservative comedians Arazi Sep 21 #30
Sympathize with what position? Keepthesoulalive Sep 21 #31
It isn't a position, I don't think mr715 Sep 21 #35
Back in the day of Carson, Paar and Leno, the late night... LAS14 Monday #39
Personally, I don't like Leno. mr715 Monday #42
There's an old saying that I grew up with... haele Monday #44
I didn't think this thread could get more embarrassing Prairie Gates Sep 21 #36
Really ? this is the example you have that you think deserves JI7 Sep 21 #37
Most of us see the rw pov only too well. Sneederbunk Sep 21 #32
And/or have MAGAt family who love bringing up RW bullshit every chance they get 🤬 Arazi Sep 21 #33
People who play that cultist blame game usonian Sep 21 #34
That was tried mercuryblues Monday #40
Genocide Johnny2X2X Monday #41
That's a ridiculous generalization. Just ridiculous. nt LAS14 Monday #45
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