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Ocelot II

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7. The federal charges against Vance Boelter, the killer of Melissa Hortman,

Reply to newdeal2 (Reply #1)

Sat Sep 20, 2025, 10:50 AM

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involved planning and stalking with the intent to kill or injure, through the use of interstate instrumentalities (mail and the Internet), and using a firearm in furtherance of a federal crime (stalking). https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25999169-indictment/. (The state has indicted him on murder charges as well, just in case he's declared a MAGA hero someday and Trump wants to pardon him. Doubtful but you never know.). So far there doesn't seem to be any similar evidence that Robinson used the internet to plan the crime or stalk Kirk, but in any event federal prosecution wouldn't make a difference in the outcome because Utah, unlike MN, has the death penalty.

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Womp, womp...why Trump's goons probably can't file a Federal case over Saint Chucky's killer. SAD! UNFAIR! WOKE! [View all] Miles Archer Sep 20 OP

Then Trump will throw a hissy fit and fire them until he gets someone who will make up a link newdeal2 Sep 20 #1

The federal charges against Vance Boelter, the killer of Melissa Hortman, Ocelot II Sep 20 #7

Tyler "Maga" Robinson was spawn of the GOP. In his mind, he was making America great again by ridding it of Kirk. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Sep 20 #2

I think it is more complicated than the right wants it to be karynnj Sep 20 #5

I agree - whatever "leftist" opinions he might hold are probably related to Ocelot II Sep 20 #12

Good assessment. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Sep 20 #20

Utah will be much harsher on Robinson than the feds. LeftInTX Sep 20 #3

There wouldn't be much difference in the outcome - both jurisdictions have the death penalty. Ocelot II Sep 20 #9

Kirk wasn't elected to anything, which is why it shouldn't be called an assassination -- it was just another gun death. eppur_se_muova Sep 20 #4

The term isn't limited to killings of elected officials. Ocelot II Sep 20 #6

Too bad it didn't specify a person of prominent merit. nt eppur_se_muova Sep 21 #22

Doesn't seem like... GiqueCee Sep 20 #8

Yes indeed and although there should be moniss Sep 20 #13

word... nt GiqueCee Sep 20 #19

Utah has the death penalty so it shouldn't matter to trump. BUT.... Callie1979 Sep 20 #10

They know there aren't any left wing groups Ohioboy Sep 20 #11

It exonerates Repukes of all blame, whenever they can point fingers at some fictional villain FakeNoose Sep 20 #14

Kirk might not be a federal officer or elected official, but I understand shooting a saint is a federal offense. sop Sep 20 #15

Unless one is shot by a Latter Day Saint? pfitz59 Sep 20 #18

That's why the FBI has been harassing the Discord users who just happened to be on at the same time Wiz Imp Sep 20 #16

If they can involve other people on some internet forum, that would be the claimed federal nexus Ocelot II Sep 20 #17

Could be assin just a good old right wing Utah home republianmushroom Sep 20 #21