General Discussion

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Wagner tried valiantly to fight against Manchin and Maher's false equivocation between the Democrats and Republicans but it was to little avail.

Wagner tried to point out how the vitriol has been amplified from the top down in the Trump administrations, and Maher kept trying to interrupt her and "what about" everything she said. It was sickening.

Maher pointed out that Jay Z and Beyonce recently had dinner in Atlantic City with Jarod Kirshner and Ivanka Trump and voiced mock outrage that these ostensible enemies crossed lines to be cordial.

The appropriate comeback should have been, "Oh you're right, Bill. Four ludicrously wealthy folks met for dinner while removed from the hoi polloi. Such progress!"

Then if Manchin piped up, turn to him and ask how his initial net worth of $5 million more than doubled during his time in the Senate.

Then Maher built his final opinion segment on the same point that Kimmel was trying to make and which got him cancelled, which is that people will rush to blame other tribes when something like the Kirk murder happens. But Maher never discussed Kimmel's attempt at the same argument, mainly because he used the GOP slant against Kimmel in his opening monologue. Either Maher missed Kimmel's point, or didn't want to see it. Which makes him either dumb or disingenuous. Neither is a positive asset.