General Discussion

At least my argument is sticking to the point. You got lost making claims I never brought up.

The point is that society struggles supporting declining population. It's not good when population stagnates. You can't get upset over social programs being slashed and economic retraction and be opposed to the idea of population growth. It's not compatible. There is no example of a society improving because of population stagnation. The second the US stops growing even significantly, we're cooked.

The issue isn't population. We're not overpopulated. We just suck at how to grow. That needs to be the focus.

And I'll say it again because no one has been able to refute it: you could eliminate half the world's population tomorrow and we'd still have the same problems environmentally, economically and with the climate. That's a fact because the problem isn't population. It's how we grow and until we address that as it relates to resources, it doesn't matter if the world's population is 8 billion or 4 billion.

Blaming overpopulation is a nonsensical and lazy argument.