General Discussion

It's easy to debate when you throw out straw man arguments.

Your points are irrelevant to actual population. It sounds like your issue isn't with population growth but the economics of a throwaway society. That should be where your focus is - not on population expanding.

Because guess what? You could eliminate half the world's population and nothing would change because we refuse to address smart and sustainable growth.

You want to see why population growth is vital?

Just look at Detroit or St. Louis.

In 1940, Detroit was the 4th largest city in the US with a population of 1,623,452. St. Louis was 8th at 816,048.

Today? Detroit is 26th with 645,705.

From 1940 to 2024, Detroit lost nearly a million people!

Do you think they're better off economically and socially?

St. Louis is now the 80th largest city in the US with a population of 279,695. They lost a staggering amount of people.

Do you think St. Louis is better off?

The issue isn't population. The issue is growth and how we actually grow.

The US can be way more unsustainable economically, environmentally and in terms of development at its current population than if they added another 500 million people. THAT IS THE POINT. It's not how much you grow by - it's how you grow. The US sucks in that regard and why it's unsustainable. That should be our focus or in 50 years, all the US will look look like Detroit.