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Quiet Em

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67. I wasn't going to respond because I find you quite rude
Fri May 30, 2025, 04:39 PM
Friday

but here

The decline in male support for the Democratic Party in 2024 looks a lot like what happened with male voters in 2016, when Hillary Clinton was the party nominee.

In 2012, when Barack Obama faced off against Mitt Romney, there was an 8-point gender gap, according to Catalist. In 2016, the gender gap increased to 12 points. In 2020, Joe Biden as the Democratic nominee, it closed back to nine percentage points. And in 2024, it had increased to 13 points. By and large, female support for the Democratic ticket was constant throughout these four elections; only male support for Democrats fluctuated.

Again, this seesawing support is evident across virtually all demographic groups. Democratic support among white non-college-educated voters is perhaps the most striking example. The party’s support with white non-college-educated women has been nearly constant in every election since 2012. But among white non-college-educated men, there was a six-point drop from 2012 to 2016, a two-point increase in 2020, and then a three-point drop in 2024. A similar gender gap was also evident among college-educated men.

So over the last four elections, we see a similar pattern — Democrats lose support with men when there’s a woman on the ticket, and gain it back when they nominate a man.


https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/democrats-male-voters-2024-election-trump-harris-rcna209582

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Just my opinion, long records of competent BootinUp Friday #1
👍 and Loyalty of the rank and file 4139 Friday #5
Our successful Presidents have run out of turn Buckeyeblue Friday #9
Clinton was, by far, the longest serving governor in the nation when he ran dsc Friday #31
But was he an insider at that point? Buckeyeblue Friday #34
He was a major figure in the DLC by that point fujiyamasan Friday #36
Should have run Biden in '88. Not Dukakis. Captain Zero Friday #76
For whatever reason Biden couldn't connect with primary voters Buckeyeblue Saturday #82
One time we ran an older man, and just a couple of years older than TSF. brush Friday #30
People seem to want "outsiders" leftstreet Friday #2
They just want people who speak to their lives Sympthsical Friday #8
Agreed RJ-MacReady Friday #12
You Forgot To Include That... ProfessorGAC Friday #13
That whole article was cat nip Sympthsical Friday #22
The party is becoming a target for grift fujiyamasan Friday #38
I'd Do It For Less, Too ProfessorGAC Friday #41
Predicting what "people seem to want" based on what works for a demagogue TheProle Friday #11
LOL leftstreet Friday #20
Not most voters, but yes Terry_M Friday #57
Whomever wins the primary gets the nomination MichMan Friday #3
And that was a HUGE problem in 2024. The nominee did not come out of a primary process. Celerity Friday #15
100% agreed Polybius Friday #29
Agree with this. pinkstarburst Friday #37
Anyone could have primaried Biden in 2024 Quiet Em Friday #44
This is dangerous RJ-MacReady Friday #46
I wasn't going to respond because I find you quite rude Quiet Em Friday #67
Biden should have honored what he said when he ran in 2020 and NOT run in 2024. Then we could have had a beaglelover Friday #49
President Biden never committed to one term. Quiet Em Friday #52
Im not sure you are right about that. Not going to spend time KPN Friday #78
You may have had that impression, Quiet Em Saturday #80
Okay, so you understood and I misunderstood. Got it. KPN Saturday #81
Anyone could have, but it's rare that incumbent presidents get viable primary challengers fujiyamasan Friday #70
Yes, that is how it works. MineralMan Friday #17
IF Harris had won in 2020 (not even 2024) only 3 Democratic POTUS's in the entire almost 200 year history of the Celerity Friday #4
If Harris ran in a vacuum, there might be a point there Sympthsical Friday #6
This. There's no really good conclusions you can take from 2024 due to confounding things EdmondDantes_ Friday #10
Well, we got one good lesson from it Sympthsical Friday #18
I feel like the No Identity Politics JustAnotherGen Friday #16
Harris' share of white voters was similar to Obama's Sympthsical Friday #21
What entree was missing from your plate? Quiet Em Friday #24
I'm a dependable Democratic voter who voted for Harris Sympthsical Friday #47
Fantastic post! beaglelover Friday #50
Kamala Harris certainly recognized it. She discussed it at length. Quiet Em Friday #54
Then keep doing what you're doing Sympthsical Friday #63
I think you are spot on genxlib Friday #55
To touch briefly on what you've said Sympthsical Friday #61
I just saw a poll for the NYC mayoral race JustAnotherGen Friday #25
NYC voter here Polybius Friday #32
All of the commercials JustAnotherGen Friday #53
I know nothing about NYC politics Sympthsical Friday #51
The US political system (two party system) requires a coalition before the election thought crime Friday #43
Kamala Harris didn't campaign on "identity politics" AZProgressive Friday #73
It's not about voter age at all. MineralMan Friday #19
There is a pragmatism in the party core base JustAnotherGen Friday #26
Personally, I think pragmatism is essential in a two-party system. MineralMan Friday #39
I can only hope JustAnotherGen Friday #58
Well, I hope they learned something and don't do that again. MineralMan Friday #59
Maybe it's not about age to us older folks womanofthehills Friday #42
Lets see, who is younger, smarter and good at social media? thought crime Friday #45
Then why not craft a message that lures voters out? Sympthsical Friday #48
Oh, I do that as every election approaches. MineralMan Friday #60
Grousing about young people Bettie Friday #33
We did: JFK, Obama. They won. Ocelot II Friday #7
Clinton was 46, Carter was 52 Sympthsical Friday #14
The Age Wars: yet another way to blame Democrats for what has nothing to do with them. betsuni Friday #23
It's tiresome JustAnotherGen Friday #27
One of the greatest problems with white democrats Keepthesoulalive Friday #35
The maga Repubs feed the souls JustAnotherGen Friday #56
For anyone wondering, here's the average age of candidates from both Parties over the past 65 years: Polybius Friday #28
Before Trump, it was pretty easy to predict the Republican nominee - it was whoever's turn it was: Midwestern Democrat Friday #71
I think running someone younger might help with the youth vote pinkstarburst Friday #40
Issues don't work JustAnotherGen Friday #75
It isnt an issue of youth. It really isnt. It is an issue of messaging. SSJVegeta Friday #62
JFK, LBJ, Carter, Bill Clinton, Obama were all in their 50's or younger when elected. madinmaryland Friday #64
Well, for someone like me, who MineralMan Friday #65
A comment I saw the other day on FB: "OMG! Imagine the mess we'd be in if she'd won!!" CrispyQ Friday #66
No doubt.... MineralMan Friday #68
Well said, MineralMan. (nt) Paladin Friday #69
To reverse an old saying... GJGCA Friday #72
We still have a gerontocracy problem AZProgressive Friday #74
How quickly we forget, mcar Friday #77
We don't run candidates, they run themselves, as it should be. Groundhawg Friday #79
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