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Ms. Toad

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57. Not all artists agree with you.
Fri May 30, 2025, 04:00 PM
May 30

Last edited Fri May 30, 2025, 05:41 PM - Edit history (1)

Here are two who are prominent enough to have their art on display in relatively prestigious locations - who disagree that AI is "always a slap at the artists and photographers.

Stephanie Dinkins

Stephanie Dinkins is a transdisciplinary artist and educator whose work intersects emerging technologies and our future histories. Her art practice is deeply committed to creating platforms for dialogue about AI as it intersects with these critical societal issues. As an LG - Guggenheim Awardee, and one of Time Magazine’s 100 Most Influential People in AI (2023), Dinkins leverages technology and storytelling to challenge and reimagine the narratives surrounding marginalized communities, particularly those of Black and brown individuals. Through her installations, digital platforms, and community-based projects, Dinkins seeks not only to question the current paradigms of AI development but also to forge paths toward more equitable and inclusive technological futures. Her work emphasizes the importance of incorporating diverse voices and perspectives into the design and application of AI, advocating for a future where technology uplifts and amplifies underrepresented histories and experiences and fostering a tech ecosystem that is truly beneficial for all.


https://www.stephaniedinkins.com/projects.html

Her work has been exhibited in such places as Studio Museum in Harlem, the Metropolitan Museum of Art, and the Victoria and Albert Museum

Refik Anadol

Refik Anadol’s work locates creativity at the intersection of humans and machines. Taking the data that surrounds us as primary material, and the neural network of a computerized mind as a collaborator, Anadol offers us radical visualizations of our digitized memories and expands the possibilities of interdisciplinary arts. Anadol’s AI data paintings and sculptures, live audio/visual performances, and immersive installations take many forms, while encouraging us to rethink our engagement with the physical world, public art, decentralized networks, and the creative potential of AI. Entire buildings come to life. Floors, walls, and ceilings disappear into infinity. Breathtaking aesthetics take shape from large swaths of data, and what was once invisible to the human eye becomes visible, offering the audience a new perspective on, and narrative of their environments.


https://refikanadol.com/events/

A piece in the permanent collection of MoMA:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CyQtuiTryoU/?img_index=1

(Note: I had originally skipped this thread, but you keep pointing to it to assert that AI offends all artists and photographers, so I decided it needed the voice of a couple of artists who disagree. It is not the reality that AI Art is "always a slap at the artists and photographers." )

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I so agree. WhiteTara May 29 #1
Thanks! highplainsdem May 29 #4
I think that your logic is the same that has always been used to oppose progress. totodeinhere May 29 #2
You're wrong. And generative AI is anything but progress. highplainsdem May 29 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author George McGovern May 29 #10
faulty comparison SouthBayDem May 29 #31
I can speak to this EarlG May 29 #5
Thank you. Although it's heartbreaking to read about you or any other creative feeling "What's the point?" of highplainsdem May 29 #8
I miss SwampRat's pictures. yardwork May 29 #11
I miss pic of the moment but I totally understand your point. CrispyQ May 29 #32
Don't use AI. Use A1. progressoid May 29 #44
Absofuckingloutely! SheltieLover May 29 #6
Thanks! highplainsdem May 29 #34
what do you mean by "stealing"? k_buddy762 May 29 #7
See this article: highplainsdem May 29 #12
Most of it wasn't trained on open source or public domain stuff. Ms. Toad May 29 #16
All AI has been trained on stolen material pinkstarburst May 30 #49
Think of the money that would have been saved Progressive dog May 29 #9
Think of the money that would have been saved if tech companies and venture capitalists hadn't highplainsdem May 29 #13
It is- that's capitalism... JCMach1 May 29 #22
A comedian (I forget who) was talking about the Sistine Chapel after niyad May 30 #58
The young do not buy art anymore womanofthehills May 29 #14
We always have a choice not to go with the flow. And everything Grok, Musk's AI, churns out is an highplainsdem May 29 #15
it doesnt matter,its coming moonshinegnomie May 29 #18
It can be rejected as unethical, flawed, harmful technology. And it should be. Especially by highplainsdem May 29 #23
It does matter. Scrivener7 May 29 #29
Problem is - the market has shrunk - people rarely buy wall art now womanofthehills May 30 #63
I've seen beautiful collages done with art that's in the public domain. Or you might try to highplainsdem May 30 #64
If I may, Highplainsdem, JMCKUSICK May 29 #17
Thanks for the kind words! And I really hope people won't use AI for posts here. It would highplainsdem May 29 #35
Thank you Highplainsdem, JMCKUSICK May 29 #37
I've seen so many teachers bring this up, when talking about AI, that I felt I had to mention it. highplainsdem May 29 #40
I'm guessing no. Like it doesn't occur to Airbnb users LisaM May 29 #19
True all too frequently. Often they tell themselves everyone else is doing it, it's inevitable, etc. highplainsdem May 29 #38
People do not understand or respect intellectual property. LisaM May 29 #41
Semi-related ... krkaufman May 29 #20
That's both funny and sad. And I'd always advise against people trusting AI overviews/summaries highplainsdem May 29 #39
I have two artist daughters. Americanme May 29 #21
Kudos to your daughters for being so talented and so ethical. (And to you for doing such a great highplainsdem May 29 #43
That's a good one. usonian May 29 #24
You should always reject it because it's unethical and harmful. Please don't use ANY AI-generated slop, highplainsdem May 29 #25
You're fighting the good fight here. WhiskeyGrinder May 29 #26
Thanks. I'm trying. highplainsdem May 29 #36
I have seen only one good use for AI art so far The Madcap May 29 #27
Not a good use. They're musicians betraying visual artists. One of my favorite rock singers highplainsdem May 29 #33
I happen to like the deforming images, The Madcap May 29 #46
The music is fine. Using AI for the video is completely unethical AND really clueless for a musician, because highplainsdem May 30 #47
I agree pinkstarburst May 30 #51
Whether the image is appealing or not, it's still stolen pinkstarburst May 30 #50
AI is the equivalent of an invasive species and it will take over if not eliminated. nt ImNotGod May 29 #28
Haven't seen that comparison before, but it's a good one. highplainsdem May 30 #48
AI is the devil. Scrivener7 May 29 #30
It's certainly functioning as a devil. Did you see the video posted at highplainsdem May 30 #53
We have no idea where this is going. The people behind it are all the Elons of the world, and it's about Scrivener7 May 30 #55
100% agree obamanut2012 May 29 #42
Thanks! highplainsdem May 30 #54
I stopped watching a lot of the videos here. progressoid May 29 #45
I know. And some of the AI users creating those videos are cynical exploiters who were making AI highplainsdem May 30 #56
AI in the arts is trained off of stolen work pinkstarburst May 30 #52
Not all artists agree with you. Ms. Toad May 30 #57
Yes, genAI is always a slap at artists and photographers. Some artists and photographers just refuse highplainsdem May 30 #61
So who appointed you God of what artists should feel, Ms. Toad May 30 #65
Tell me how a few artists finding it profitable to work with AI can cancel out the incalculably vast theft highplainsdem May 30 #66
You said it was always a slap to artists. Ms. Toad May 30 #70
I said it was a slap AT artists, not TO them. Look at my OP. highplainsdem May 30 #71
To/at - not a substantial difference. What I said is that not all artists agree. Ms. Toad May 30 #72
It's a complete difference. You're talking about a different subject - feelings about AI versus highplainsdem May 30 #73
Some people don't seem to care MorbidButterflyTat May 30 #59
Stunning, and painful to watch. highplainsdem May 30 #67
I have so much to say about hating AI and posting clickbait memes but I won't. blogslug May 30 #60
I can understand people wanting to do that. highplainsdem May 30 #68
Thank you. mucholderthandirt May 30 #62
You're welcome, and I'm so sorry your work was stolen for training AI. highplainsdem May 30 #69
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