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fujiyamasan

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38. The party is becoming a target for grift

Fri May 30, 2025, 01:45 PM

May 30

Hey, who can blame the consultants. An all expense paid trip to yap, yap, yap at a nice resort.

Sign me up! I’m sure I’d charge a lot less!

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Why Don't We Democrats Run Younger Candidates for President? [View all] MineralMan May 30 OP

Just my opinion, long records of competent BootinUp May 30 #1

👍 and Loyalty of the rank and file 4139 May 30 #5

Our successful Presidents have run out of turn Buckeyeblue May 30 #9

Clinton was, by far, the longest serving governor in the nation when he ran dsc May 30 #31

But was he an insider at that point? Buckeyeblue May 30 #34

He was a major figure in the DLC by that point fujiyamasan May 30 #36

Should have run Biden in '88. Not Dukakis. Captain Zero May 30 #76

For whatever reason Biden couldn't connect with primary voters Buckeyeblue Saturday #82

One time we ran an older man, and just a couple of years older than TSF. brush May 30 #30

People seem to want "outsiders" leftstreet May 30 #2

They just want people who speak to their lives Sympthsical May 30 #8

Agreed RJ-MacReady May 30 #12

You Forgot To Include That... ProfessorGAC May 30 #13

That whole article was cat nip Sympthsical May 30 #22

The party is becoming a target for grift fujiyamasan May 30 #38

I'd Do It For Less, Too ProfessorGAC May 30 #41

Predicting what "people seem to want" based on what works for a demagogue TheProle May 30 #11

LOL leftstreet May 30 #20

Not most voters, but yes Terry_M May 30 #57

Whomever wins the primary gets the nomination MichMan May 30 #3

And that was a HUGE problem in 2024. The nominee did not come out of a primary process. Celerity May 30 #15

100% agreed Polybius May 30 #29

Agree with this. pinkstarburst May 30 #37

Anyone could have primaried Biden in 2024 Quiet Em May 30 #44

This is dangerous RJ-MacReady May 30 #46

I wasn't going to respond because I find you quite rude Quiet Em May 30 #67

Biden should have honored what he said when he ran in 2020 and NOT run in 2024. Then we could have had a beaglelover May 30 #49

President Biden never committed to one term. Quiet Em May 30 #52

Im not sure you are right about that. Not going to spend time KPN May 30 #78

You may have had that impression, Quiet Em Saturday #80

Okay, so you understood and I misunderstood. Got it. KPN Saturday #81

Anyone could have, but it's rare that incumbent presidents get viable primary challengers fujiyamasan May 30 #70

Yes, that is how it works. MineralMan May 30 #17

IF Harris had won in 2020 (not even 2024) only 3 Democratic POTUS's in the entire almost 200 year history of the Celerity May 30 #4

If Harris ran in a vacuum, there might be a point there Sympthsical May 30 #6

This. There's no really good conclusions you can take from 2024 due to confounding things EdmondDantes_ May 30 #10

Well, we got one good lesson from it Sympthsical May 30 #18

I feel like the No Identity Politics JustAnotherGen May 30 #16

Harris' share of white voters was similar to Obama's Sympthsical May 30 #21

What entree was missing from your plate? Quiet Em May 30 #24

I'm a dependable Democratic voter who voted for Harris Sympthsical May 30 #47

Fantastic post! beaglelover May 30 #50

Kamala Harris certainly recognized it. She discussed it at length. Quiet Em May 30 #54

Then keep doing what you're doing Sympthsical May 30 #63

I think you are spot on genxlib May 30 #55

To touch briefly on what you've said Sympthsical May 30 #61

I just saw a poll for the NYC mayoral race JustAnotherGen May 30 #25

NYC voter here Polybius May 30 #32

All of the commercials JustAnotherGen May 30 #53

I know nothing about NYC politics Sympthsical May 30 #51

The US political system (two party system) requires a coalition before the election thought crime May 30 #43

Kamala Harris didn't campaign on "identity politics" AZProgressive May 30 #73

It's not about voter age at all. MineralMan May 30 #19

There is a pragmatism in the party core base JustAnotherGen May 30 #26

Personally, I think pragmatism is essential in a two-party system. MineralMan May 30 #39

I can only hope JustAnotherGen May 30 #58

Well, I hope they learned something and don't do that again. MineralMan May 30 #59

Maybe it's not about age to us older folks womanofthehills May 30 #42

Lets see, who is younger, smarter and good at social media? thought crime May 30 #45

Then why not craft a message that lures voters out? Sympthsical May 30 #48

Oh, I do that as every election approaches. MineralMan May 30 #60

Grousing about young people Bettie May 30 #33

We did: JFK, Obama. They won. Ocelot II May 30 #7

Clinton was 46, Carter was 52 Sympthsical May 30 #14

The Age Wars: yet another way to blame Democrats for what has nothing to do with them. betsuni May 30 #23

It's tiresome JustAnotherGen May 30 #27

One of the greatest problems with white democrats Keepthesoulalive May 30 #35

The maga Repubs feed the souls JustAnotherGen May 30 #56

For anyone wondering, here's the average age of candidates from both Parties over the past 65 years: Polybius May 30 #28

Before Trump, it was pretty easy to predict the Republican nominee - it was whoever's turn it was: Midwestern Democrat May 30 #71

I think running someone younger might help with the youth vote pinkstarburst May 30 #40

Issues don't work JustAnotherGen May 30 #75

It isnt an issue of youth. It really isnt. It is an issue of messaging. SSJVegeta May 30 #62

JFK, LBJ, Carter, Bill Clinton, Obama were all in their 50's or younger when elected. madinmaryland May 30 #64

Well, for someone like me, who MineralMan May 30 #65

A comment I saw the other day on FB: "OMG! Imagine the mess we'd be in if she'd won!!" CrispyQ May 30 #66

No doubt.... MineralMan May 30 #68

Well said, MineralMan. (nt) Paladin May 30 #69

To reverse an old saying... GJGCA May 30 #72

We still have a gerontocracy problem AZProgressive May 30 #74

How quickly we forget, mcar May 30 #77

We don't run candidates, they run themselves, as it should be. Groundhawg May 30 #79