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JustAnotherGen

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26. There is a pragmatism in the party core base

Fri May 30, 2025, 12:13 PM

May 2025

Roland Martin pointed out the other day - in 2020 in the South Carolina Primary the base put its wish list aside and voted for the guy who they believed could beat the other white guy.

NYC Mayor's Race polling tracks with pragmatism.

NJ Gubernatorial primary election week after next? I believe we are going pragmatic. There are a lot of aspirational things I would like to see happen right now . . . But we need Sherrill and Gottheimer in the House. Military Experience Candidates also don't do well here. That takes out Sherrill AND Fulop.

Which leaves us with two mayors - one who currently manages the largest city in the state. Which one will be better at Defiance to Trump? That's the question. Black voters are looking for some to fill Murphy's legacy of excellence.

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👍 and Loyalty of the rank and file 4139 May 2025 #5

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One time we ran an older man, and just a couple of years older than TSF. brush May 2025 #30

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They just want people who speak to their lives Sympthsical May 2025 #8

Agreed RJ-MacReady May 2025 #12

You Forgot To Include That... ProfessorGAC May 2025 #13

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I'd Do It For Less, Too ProfessorGAC May 2025 #41

Predicting what "people seem to want" based on what works for a demagogue TheProle May 2025 #11

LOL leftstreet May 2025 #20

Not most voters, but yes Terry_M May 2025 #57

Whomever wins the primary gets the nomination MichMan May 2025 #3

And that was a HUGE problem in 2024. The nominee did not come out of a primary process. Celerity May 2025 #15

100% agreed Polybius May 2025 #29

Agree with this. pinkstarburst May 2025 #37

Anyone could have primaried Biden in 2024 Quiet Em May 2025 #44

This is dangerous RJ-MacReady May 2025 #46

I wasn't going to respond because I find you quite rude Quiet Em May 2025 #67

Biden should have honored what he said when he ran in 2020 and NOT run in 2024. Then we could have had a beaglelover May 2025 #49

President Biden never committed to one term. Quiet Em May 2025 #52

Im not sure you are right about that. Not going to spend time KPN May 2025 #78

You may have had that impression, Quiet Em May 2025 #80

Okay, so you understood and I misunderstood. Got it. KPN May 2025 #81

Anyone could have, but it's rare that incumbent presidents get viable primary challengers fujiyamasan May 2025 #70

Yes, that is how it works. MineralMan May 2025 #17

IF Harris had won in 2020 (not even 2024) only 3 Democratic POTUS's in the entire almost 200 year history of the Celerity May 2025 #4

If Harris ran in a vacuum, there might be a point there Sympthsical May 2025 #6

This. There's no really good conclusions you can take from 2024 due to confounding things EdmondDantes_ May 2025 #10

Well, we got one good lesson from it Sympthsical May 2025 #18

I feel like the No Identity Politics JustAnotherGen May 2025 #16

Harris' share of white voters was similar to Obama's Sympthsical May 2025 #21

What entree was missing from your plate? Quiet Em May 2025 #24

I'm a dependable Democratic voter who voted for Harris Sympthsical May 2025 #47

Fantastic post! beaglelover May 2025 #50

Kamala Harris certainly recognized it. She discussed it at length. Quiet Em May 2025 #54

Then keep doing what you're doing Sympthsical May 2025 #63

I think you are spot on genxlib May 2025 #55

To touch briefly on what you've said Sympthsical May 2025 #61

I just saw a poll for the NYC mayoral race JustAnotherGen May 2025 #25

NYC voter here Polybius May 2025 #32

All of the commercials JustAnotherGen May 2025 #53

I know nothing about NYC politics Sympthsical May 2025 #51

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Kamala Harris didn't campaign on "identity politics" AZProgressive May 2025 #73

It's not about voter age at all. MineralMan May 2025 #19

There is a pragmatism in the party core base JustAnotherGen May 2025 #26

Personally, I think pragmatism is essential in a two-party system. MineralMan May 2025 #39

I can only hope JustAnotherGen May 2025 #58

Well, I hope they learned something and don't do that again. MineralMan May 2025 #59

Maybe it's not about age to us older folks womanofthehills May 2025 #42

Lets see, who is younger, smarter and good at social media? thought crime May 2025 #45

Then why not craft a message that lures voters out? Sympthsical May 2025 #48

Oh, I do that as every election approaches. MineralMan May 2025 #60

Grousing about young people Bettie May 2025 #33

We did: JFK, Obama. They won. Ocelot II May 2025 #7

Clinton was 46, Carter was 52 Sympthsical May 2025 #14

The Age Wars: yet another way to blame Democrats for what has nothing to do with them. betsuni May 2025 #23

It's tiresome JustAnotherGen May 2025 #27

One of the greatest problems with white democrats Keepthesoulalive May 2025 #35

The maga Repubs feed the souls JustAnotherGen May 2025 #56

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Before Trump, it was pretty easy to predict the Republican nominee - it was whoever's turn it was: Midwestern Democrat May 2025 #71

I think running someone younger might help with the youth vote pinkstarburst May 2025 #40

Issues don't work JustAnotherGen May 2025 #75

It isnt an issue of youth. It really isnt. It is an issue of messaging. SSJVegeta May 2025 #62

JFK, LBJ, Carter, Bill Clinton, Obama were all in their 50's or younger when elected. madinmaryland May 2025 #64

Well, for someone like me, who MineralMan May 2025 #65

A comment I saw the other day on FB: "OMG! Imagine the mess we'd be in if she'd won!!" CrispyQ May 2025 #66

No doubt.... MineralMan May 2025 #68

Well said, MineralMan. (nt) Paladin May 2025 #69

To reverse an old saying... GJGCA May 2025 #72

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How quickly we forget, mcar May 2025 #77

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