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highplainsdem

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Thu May 29, 2025, 11:39 AM May 2025

Does it occur to any of you who are posting AI slop - AI art - that it's always a slap at the artists and photographers [View all]

Last edited Thu May 29, 2025, 12:21 PM - Edit history (1)

whose work was stolen to train the AI image generators that were used to create that AI slop?

It might be a slap at Trump, too, and at other people we love to hate.

But it still signals a lack of respect for the rights of the artists whose work was stolen so AI companies - and AI bros now backing Trump - could profit.

It signals a lack of concern that those artists and photographers are fighting for their livelihoods and artistic existence against AI bros who are fighting the lawsuits filed because of that theft, who are refusing to be transparent about exactly how much they stole, and who want either exceptions to intellectual property laws for training AI, or the complete elimination of those laws. The billionaire AI bros will still have the money and power to defend their property and rights, but they don't want the people they've exploited or plan to exploit to have that option.

The world needs artists. Real artists. It does not need AI slop. It does not need every twit with access to an AI image generator giving the AI some prompt based on whatever is in the news to vomit out endless variations on that prompt, most of them probably too grotesque to share, until they finally get one they can show off.

"Look what I did!" Except they didn't do it. They're not artists.

"Look what I thought up!" Except little or no thought went into it, and they might never have imagined anything at all close to whatever image option they finally chose to post.

It isn't really art. It isn't really commentary. It's an insult to art and artists. It's an insult to the real cartoonists and satirists using real talent and skill - and real intent instead of mindless generation of AI slop that has to be weeded through to find anything worth posting. With all that AI slop a waste of electricity and water to cool data centers.

It's a travesty. And a thumbs-up for the AI bros. Who might be letting people amuse themselves mocking Trump right now, but will be able to turn that option off if they gain the control they want.

And in the meantime, the people using AI image generators won't have learned one damn thing about creating art without their AI crutches. But they will have done a lot to clog the internet with garbage, make people more habituated to it, and lower standards for art and creativity.

EDITING to request that everyone please read EarlG's reply 5.

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I so agree. WhiteTara May 2025 #1
Thanks! highplainsdem May 2025 #4
I think that your logic is the same that has always been used to oppose progress. totodeinhere May 2025 #2
You're wrong. And generative AI is anything but progress. highplainsdem May 2025 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author George McGovern May 2025 #10
faulty comparison SouthBayDem May 2025 #31
I can speak to this EarlG May 2025 #5
Thank you. Although it's heartbreaking to read about you or any other creative feeling "What's the point?" of highplainsdem May 2025 #8
I miss SwampRat's pictures. yardwork May 2025 #11
I miss pic of the moment but I totally understand your point. CrispyQ May 2025 #32
Don't use AI. Use A1. progressoid May 2025 #44
Absofuckingloutely! SheltieLover May 2025 #6
Thanks! highplainsdem May 2025 #34
what do you mean by "stealing"? k_buddy762 May 2025 #7
See this article: highplainsdem May 2025 #12
Most of it wasn't trained on open source or public domain stuff. Ms. Toad May 2025 #16
All AI has been trained on stolen material pinkstarburst May 2025 #49
Think of the money that would have been saved Progressive dog May 2025 #9
Think of the money that would have been saved if tech companies and venture capitalists hadn't highplainsdem May 2025 #13
It is- that's capitalism... JCMach1 May 2025 #22
A comedian (I forget who) was talking about the Sistine Chapel after niyad May 2025 #58
The young do not buy art anymore womanofthehills May 2025 #14
We always have a choice not to go with the flow. And everything Grok, Musk's AI, churns out is an highplainsdem May 2025 #15
it doesnt matter,its coming moonshinegnomie May 2025 #18
It can be rejected as unethical, flawed, harmful technology. And it should be. Especially by highplainsdem May 2025 #23
It does matter. Scrivener7 May 2025 #29
Problem is - the market has shrunk - people rarely buy wall art now womanofthehills May 2025 #63
I've seen beautiful collages done with art that's in the public domain. Or you might try to highplainsdem May 2025 #64
If I may, Highplainsdem, JMCKUSICK May 2025 #17
Thanks for the kind words! And I really hope people won't use AI for posts here. It would highplainsdem May 2025 #35
Thank you Highplainsdem, JMCKUSICK May 2025 #37
I've seen so many teachers bring this up, when talking about AI, that I felt I had to mention it. highplainsdem May 2025 #40
I'm guessing no. Like it doesn't occur to Airbnb users LisaM May 2025 #19
True all too frequently. Often they tell themselves everyone else is doing it, it's inevitable, etc. highplainsdem May 2025 #38
People do not understand or respect intellectual property. LisaM May 2025 #41
Semi-related ... krkaufman May 2025 #20
That's both funny and sad. And I'd always advise against people trusting AI overviews/summaries highplainsdem May 2025 #39
I have two artist daughters. Americanme May 2025 #21
Kudos to your daughters for being so talented and so ethical. (And to you for doing such a great highplainsdem May 2025 #43
That's a good one. usonian May 2025 #24
You should always reject it because it's unethical and harmful. Please don't use ANY AI-generated slop, highplainsdem May 2025 #25
You're fighting the good fight here. WhiskeyGrinder May 2025 #26
Thanks. I'm trying. highplainsdem May 2025 #36
I have seen only one good use for AI art so far The Madcap May 2025 #27
Not a good use. They're musicians betraying visual artists. One of my favorite rock singers highplainsdem May 2025 #33
I happen to like the deforming images, The Madcap May 2025 #46
The music is fine. Using AI for the video is completely unethical AND really clueless for a musician, because highplainsdem May 2025 #47
I agree pinkstarburst May 2025 #51
Whether the image is appealing or not, it's still stolen pinkstarburst May 2025 #50
AI is the equivalent of an invasive species and it will take over if not eliminated. nt ImNotGod May 2025 #28
Haven't seen that comparison before, but it's a good one. highplainsdem May 2025 #48
AI is the devil. Scrivener7 May 2025 #30
It's certainly functioning as a devil. Did you see the video posted at highplainsdem May 2025 #53
We have no idea where this is going. The people behind it are all the Elons of the world, and it's about Scrivener7 May 2025 #55
100% agree obamanut2012 May 2025 #42
Thanks! highplainsdem May 2025 #54
I stopped watching a lot of the videos here. progressoid May 2025 #45
I know. And some of the AI users creating those videos are cynical exploiters who were making AI highplainsdem May 2025 #56
AI in the arts is trained off of stolen work pinkstarburst May 2025 #52
Not all artists agree with you. Ms. Toad May 2025 #57
Yes, genAI is always a slap at artists and photographers. Some artists and photographers just refuse highplainsdem May 2025 #61
So who appointed you God of what artists should feel, Ms. Toad May 2025 #65
Tell me how a few artists finding it profitable to work with AI can cancel out the incalculably vast theft highplainsdem May 2025 #66
You said it was always a slap to artists. Ms. Toad May 2025 #70
I said it was a slap AT artists, not TO them. Look at my OP. highplainsdem May 2025 #71
To/at - not a substantial difference. What I said is that not all artists agree. Ms. Toad May 2025 #72
It's a complete difference. You're talking about a different subject - feelings about AI versus highplainsdem May 2025 #73
Some people don't seem to care MorbidButterflyTat May 2025 #59
Stunning, and painful to watch. highplainsdem May 2025 #67
I have so much to say about hating AI and posting clickbait memes but I won't. blogslug May 2025 #60
I can understand people wanting to do that. highplainsdem May 2025 #68
Thank you. mucholderthandirt May 2025 #62
You're welcome, and I'm so sorry your work was stolen for training AI. highplainsdem May 2025 #69
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