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highplainsdem

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Thu May 29, 2025, 12:39 PM Thursday

Does it occur to any of you who are posting AI slop - AI art - that it's always a slap at the artists and photographers [View all]

Last edited Thu May 29, 2025, 01:21 PM - Edit history (1)

whose work was stolen to train the AI image generators that were used to create that AI slop?

It might be a slap at Trump, too, and at other people we love to hate.

But it still signals a lack of respect for the rights of the artists whose work was stolen so AI companies - and AI bros now backing Trump - could profit.

It signals a lack of concern that those artists and photographers are fighting for their livelihoods and artistic existence against AI bros who are fighting the lawsuits filed because of that theft, who are refusing to be transparent about exactly how much they stole, and who want either exceptions to intellectual property laws for training AI, or the complete elimination of those laws. The billionaire AI bros will still have the money and power to defend their property and rights, but they don't want the people they've exploited or plan to exploit to have that option.

The world needs artists. Real artists. It does not need AI slop. It does not need every twit with access to an AI image generator giving the AI some prompt based on whatever is in the news to vomit out endless variations on that prompt, most of them probably too grotesque to share, until they finally get one they can show off.

"Look what I did!" Except they didn't do it. They're not artists.

"Look what I thought up!" Except little or no thought went into it, and they might never have imagined anything at all close to whatever image option they finally chose to post.

It isn't really art. It isn't really commentary. It's an insult to art and artists. It's an insult to the real cartoonists and satirists using real talent and skill - and real intent instead of mindless generation of AI slop that has to be weeded through to find anything worth posting. With all that AI slop a waste of electricity and water to cool data centers.

It's a travesty. And a thumbs-up for the AI bros. Who might be letting people amuse themselves mocking Trump right now, but will be able to turn that option off if they gain the control they want.

And in the meantime, the people using AI image generators won't have learned one damn thing about creating art without their AI crutches. But they will have done a lot to clog the internet with garbage, make people more habituated to it, and lower standards for art and creativity.

EDITING to request that everyone please read EarlG's reply 5.

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I so agree. WhiteTara Thursday #1
Thanks! highplainsdem Thursday #4
I think that your logic is the same that has always been used to oppose progress. totodeinhere Thursday #2
You're wrong. And generative AI is anything but progress. highplainsdem Thursday #3
This message was self-deleted by its author George McGovern Thursday #10
faulty comparison SouthBayDem Thursday #31
I can speak to this EarlG Thursday #5
Thank you. Although it's heartbreaking to read about you or any other creative feeling "What's the point?" of highplainsdem Thursday #8
I miss SwampRat's pictures. yardwork Thursday #11
I miss pic of the moment but I totally understand your point. CrispyQ Thursday #32
Don't use AI. Use A1. progressoid Thursday #44
Absofuckingloutely! SheltieLover Thursday #6
Thanks! highplainsdem Thursday #34
what do you mean by "stealing"? k_buddy762 Thursday #7
See this article: highplainsdem Thursday #12
Most of it wasn't trained on open source or public domain stuff. Ms. Toad Thursday #16
All AI has been trained on stolen material pinkstarburst Friday #49
Think of the money that would have been saved Progressive dog Thursday #9
Think of the money that would have been saved if tech companies and venture capitalists hadn't highplainsdem Thursday #13
It is- that's capitalism... JCMach1 Thursday #22
A comedian (I forget who) was talking about the Sistine Chapel after niyad Friday #58
The young do not buy art anymore womanofthehills Thursday #14
We always have a choice not to go with the flow. And everything Grok, Musk's AI, churns out is an highplainsdem Thursday #15
it doesnt matter,its coming moonshinegnomie Thursday #18
It can be rejected as unethical, flawed, harmful technology. And it should be. Especially by highplainsdem Thursday #23
It does matter. Scrivener7 Thursday #29
Problem is - the market has shrunk - people rarely buy wall art now womanofthehills Friday #63
I've seen beautiful collages done with art that's in the public domain. Or you might try to highplainsdem Friday #64
If I may, Highplainsdem, JMCKUSICK Thursday #17
Thanks for the kind words! And I really hope people won't use AI for posts here. It would highplainsdem Thursday #35
Thank you Highplainsdem, JMCKUSICK Thursday #37
I've seen so many teachers bring this up, when talking about AI, that I felt I had to mention it. highplainsdem Thursday #40
I'm guessing no. Like it doesn't occur to Airbnb users LisaM Thursday #19
True all too frequently. Often they tell themselves everyone else is doing it, it's inevitable, etc. highplainsdem Thursday #38
People do not understand or respect intellectual property. LisaM Thursday #41
Semi-related ... krkaufman Thursday #20
That's both funny and sad. And I'd always advise against people trusting AI overviews/summaries highplainsdem Thursday #39
I have two artist daughters. Americanme Thursday #21
Kudos to your daughters for being so talented and so ethical. (And to you for doing such a great highplainsdem Thursday #43
That's a good one. usonian Thursday #24
You should always reject it because it's unethical and harmful. Please don't use ANY AI-generated slop, highplainsdem Thursday #25
You're fighting the good fight here. WhiskeyGrinder Thursday #26
Thanks. I'm trying. highplainsdem Thursday #36
I have seen only one good use for AI art so far The Madcap Thursday #27
Not a good use. They're musicians betraying visual artists. One of my favorite rock singers highplainsdem Thursday #33
I happen to like the deforming images, The Madcap Thursday #46
The music is fine. Using AI for the video is completely unethical AND really clueless for a musician, because highplainsdem Friday #47
I agree pinkstarburst Friday #51
Whether the image is appealing or not, it's still stolen pinkstarburst Friday #50
AI is the equivalent of an invasive species and it will take over if not eliminated. nt ImNotGod Thursday #28
Haven't seen that comparison before, but it's a good one. highplainsdem Friday #48
AI is the devil. Scrivener7 Thursday #30
It's certainly functioning as a devil. Did you see the video posted at highplainsdem Friday #53
We have no idea where this is going. The people behind it are all the Elons of the world, and it's about Scrivener7 Friday #55
100% agree obamanut2012 Thursday #42
Thanks! highplainsdem Friday #54
I stopped watching a lot of the videos here. progressoid Thursday #45
I know. And some of the AI users creating those videos are cynical exploiters who were making AI highplainsdem Friday #56
AI in the arts is trained off of stolen work pinkstarburst Friday #52
Not all artists agree with you. Ms. Toad Friday #57
Yes, genAI is always a slap at artists and photographers. Some artists and photographers just refuse highplainsdem Friday #61
So who appointed you God of what artists should feel, Ms. Toad Friday #65
Tell me how a few artists finding it profitable to work with AI can cancel out the incalculably vast theft highplainsdem Friday #66
You said it was always a slap to artists. Ms. Toad Friday #70
I said it was a slap AT artists, not TO them. Look at my OP. highplainsdem Friday #71
To/at - not a substantial difference. What I said is that not all artists agree. Ms. Toad Friday #72
It's a complete difference. You're talking about a different subject - feelings about AI versus highplainsdem Friday #73
Some people don't seem to care MorbidButterflyTat Friday #59
Stunning, and painful to watch. highplainsdem Friday #67
I have so much to say about hating AI and posting clickbait memes but I won't. blogslug Friday #60
I can understand people wanting to do that. highplainsdem Friday #68
Thank you. mucholderthandirt Friday #62
You're welcome, and I'm so sorry your work was stolen for training AI. highplainsdem Friday #69
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