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24. Guidelines are *Guidelines*
Mon May 26, 2025, 03:35 PM
May 26
Guidelines are not absolutes. Although many health non-care organizations and denial-of-coverage insurance companies like to pretend that they are and so will refuse to cover something that's not clearly within the guidelines.

In the case of insurance companies, they often initially deny guideline directed testing as well. Saves them money, especially as they hope you might die in the meantime. I base this on over a half century of medical practice as a physician as well as from these past few years of being a patient.

The current guidelines (2023) from the American Urological Association state, in part https://www.auanet.org/guidelines-and-quality/guidelines/early-detection-of-prostate-cancer-guidelines
6. Clinicians should offer regular prostate cancer screening every 2 to 4 years to people aged 50 to 69 years. (Strong Recommendation; Evidence Level: Grade A)

7.Clinicians may personalize the re-screening interval, or decide to discontinue screening, based on patient preference, age, PSA, prostate cancer risk, life expectancy, and general health following SDM. (Conditional Recommendation; Evidence Level: Grade B)

The US Preventive Services Task Force was more directive (back in 2018) and bluntly states https://www.auanet.org/guidelines-and-quality/guidelines/early-detection-of-prostate-cancer-guidelines
The USPSTF recommends against PSA-based screening for prostate cancer in men 70 years and older.
A bit further down the page under "Clinician Summary" they bluntly say

Men 70 y and older
Do not screen for prostate cancer.

Darkly, amusingly, up near the top of the page, they note that there is an "Update in Progress" for Prostate Cancer Screening. Golly, wonder what prompted this review?

My own prostate cancer was diagnosed in my seventies on the basis of an elevated PSA ordered by my primary care NP. If this had not been done, it would have been found on the annual PSA my urologist would have ordered. Before the elevated one, my PSA had been stable at the upper limit of starting to worry. The last had been done 4 months prior to the one ordered by my NP.

In my own experience I know of NO urologist or PCP who follows the "do not draw PSA on men (or women) over 70" guidelines. If PSA is normal-normal it might be done every other year (or even three) but it will be done at least every 3-4 years if you're over fifty.

As mine was high-normal, both my NP and Urologist checked it annually as they practice in different healthcare settings and each wanted the results in their medical records.

Neither you (in the general sense), nor I and likely none of the talking-heads knows (or has any right to know) the specifics of why the diagnosis was not made until it was.

Joe Biden is no longer the President. He's an oldie with a dreadful disease. Leave him TF in Peace.


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Sudden diagnosis of aggressive prostate cancer all too common struggle4progress May 25 #1
Sounds a lot like Ovarian Cancer in women. slightlv May 25 #9
That guidance against PSA tests is outrageous Bluetus May 26 #19
Guidelines are *Guidelines* Doctoris Extincti May 26 #24
My situation is similar Bluetus May 26 #25
Totally agree with you! Doctoris Extincti May 26 #26
Many 70 year olds can live until 90+ choie May 26 #27
Well, the very slow-growing forms of prostate cancer Bluetus May 26 #30
Why Biden may not have known about his cancer until recently struggle4progress May 25 #2
I believed Joe Biden without proof. Because he is an honest man. Walleye May 25 #3
Me too. Makes all the difference. calimary May 25 #11
People should learn to trust their instincts when it comes to truth and lies Walleye May 25 #13
I am not sure the issue is instincts Bluetus May 26 #20
Yes, we simply need to recognize what honesty is to start with Walleye May 26 #22
How Doctors Treat Aggressive Prostate Cancer Like Joe Biden's struggle4progress May 25 #4
Thank you for all the information. sheshe2 May 25 #5
I have been waiting for someone MLWR May 25 #6
Hear, hear peggysue2 May 25 #7
Mahalo for all these Informative articles Cha May 25 #8
Good article. One everybody should read, whether they have cancer or don't, calimary May 25 #10
The Heart of the Problem DET May 25 #12
A test of psa and free psa is more meaningful, and cost is essentially the same for psa/free psa test... NowsTheTime May 26 #15
Indeed, the screening recommendations are bad advice. Trust_Reality May 26 #21
Good information -- (also much needed). Thank you. liberalla May 26 #14
It's not just prostate cancer - this happens TBF May 26 #16
Same here. ChazInAz May 26 #17
Hmmmm Littlered May 26 #18
Obviously, a "routine" blood test is important! young_at_heart May 26 #23
Seems like many Littlered May 26 #29
k&r Nimble_Idea May 26 #28
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