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In reply to the discussion: Never say Isreal is doing this to Gaza: [View all]Beastly Boy
(13,008 posts)99. Agreed, with one caveat.
Enclosed are examples of antisemitism in the IHRA definition of antisemitism you are probably referring to:
Calling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of a radical ideology or an extremist view of religion.
Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective — such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.
Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews.
Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g. gas chambers) or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust).
Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.
Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.
Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.
Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.
https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism
Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective — such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.
Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews.
Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g. gas chambers) or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust).
Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.
Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.
Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.
Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.
I would like to clarify which you consider to be the examples of anti-semitism that "has been demanded and pushed which goes very far in equating criticism of policy of the government of Israel with anti-semitism."
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No I do not. Furthermore, I instructed you how to meet my challenge without breaking DU rules.
Beastly Boy
May 26
#143
Critics of Israel's (Netenyahu's) rightwing government's Gaza policies are routinely accused of being anti-Semitic.
sop
May 24
#9
Obviously people in the rest of the world do say "America" - that's what humans do
muriel_volestrangler
May 24
#17
Sadly, these debates always devolve into someone being accused of being anti-Semitic, pro-Hamas or worse.
sop
May 24
#21
I won't, but I never conflate Israel's and Netenyahu's rightwing government's actions in Gaza with being a Jew.
sop
May 24
#24
If I understand you correctly, it is not the IHRA definition of antisemitism that is the object to your objections.
Beastly Boy
May 25
#121
Maybe if you think these posts are "truly antisemitic" but they don't get removed
muriel_volestrangler
May 24
#49
Your posts in this thread are weak sauce - "I criticize Netanyahu - I dare someone to call me an antisemite"
muriel_volestrangler
May 24
#81
So you won't point out an aspect of Israeli policy in Gaza that you condemn?
muriel_volestrangler
May 24
#83
What Hamas did on October 7 was monstrous. It does everyone a disservice to repeat falsehoods about it.
WhiskeyGrinder
May 24
#47
Yeah from what I've seen, the claims about babies cut in half or put in ovens are routinely discounted.
WhiskeyGrinder
May 24
#76
But Israel has been visiting violence and hatred on Gaza, since the very beginning of the nakba
indusurb
May 24
#4
You are using another poster (the one at your link) to insinuate that a poster in this thread (indusurb) attacked Biden
Celerity
May 24
#37
What are you talking about? From 1948 throgh 1967 it was Egypt that controlled and occupied Gaza.
lapucelle
May 24
#22
Haaretz: Account From '56 Describes Slaughter and Rape by Israeli Troops in Gaza. Is It True?
David__77
May 24
#27
Fun fact: the fictitious "account" occurred during the Suez Crisis when Egypt was occupying Gaza.
lapucelle
May 24
#34
The 1956-57 occupation of the Gaza Strip : Israeli proposals to resettle the Palestinian refugees.
David__77
May 24
#35
I think its the same, the Mideast, North America. Can I ask what makes it not quite the same?
Eko
May 24
#112
Au contraire mon frere. I have read comments on this site that are basically a chorus of "From the River to the Sea"
Noodleboy13
May 24
#94
Or perhaps you ascribe what you read as pro Hamas in your mind only. Don't expect any responses to your
Nanjeanne
May 24
#96