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rurallib

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58. I am doing much of this from memory.
Fri May 2, 2025, 10:59 AM
May 2

Just prior to the time that Air America made a stab at the concept of liberal radio, SCOTUS had made a decision that one company could own more than 2 broadcast radio stations in a market. This gave rise to the Clear Channel Corporation that bought up something like 1500 radio stations across the country. This included almost all of the 50,000 clear channel AM stations and in small market almost all of the stations in that market. Maybe you heard the story of dangerous weather in North Dakota one night. When the sheriff went to the local radio station (Bismark I think) to have them broadcast an alert he found out that the station was being run from Texas.

So Clear Channel owned about half of the US radio stations. Another company owned a third of the stations and another company had like 10%. I believe Air America started out to buy properties but there were very few available. That was one problem.

Remember that by then right wing radio had been established. Much of their programming was owned by the same corporation that owned all the stations under the Clear Channel corporation. I think it was called Premiere Radio. They owned Limbaugh and Hannity and many lesser lights like Michael Reagan. So they had the talent and the stations to put it on.

If some radio station wanted to run Premiere's shows like Limbaugh, they would get a real sweetheart deal from Premiere. The cost of the show to the station was $1 - but premiere got to sell most of the ad time. Shows were individual so they could take Reagan and skip Limbaugh. The local station got like 5 minutes an hour to sell locally - just enough to pay some bills. The shows filled a lot of empty air time. The local station didn't have to pay salesmen and could cut employees to the very bone.
So RW radio spread like wildfire.

When AAR came in they tried to sell radio stations a full day of programs as a package and the station had to sell the ad time. Hard for stations. In many case Clear Channel would give AAR one of their crappiest local radio stations just to fill air time. When CC had 7 stations in a market they had a lot of air time to fill, so much of AAR was on Clear Channel stations. In many cases CC decided to sell these stations and one day it was AAR then the next day Christian radio.

So the biggest problem AAR had was a lack of outlets plus a pretty bad business plan. What stations they were on were often low power dogs. I seem to recall that the one in LA only covered about 25% of LA.

Hard to find and poorly run was the biggest problem. Therefore it was hard to get listeners. In that respect much of what could have been their audience was already pretty faithful to NPR and weren't changing.

The business side grew into a disorganized mess and was going through lots of shakeups. And on the Clear Channel side they began shedding may of their real dog stations, so literally a station might be sold overnight and would go from AAR to Latino overnight. The one that I listened to did just that in the Quad Cities.

I worked with a group trying to secure some outlets in the midwest and we could get little support for our project. We would speak with influential folks and they would give us a glazed look.

So I think the biggest factor was bad business practices, really tough competition especially NPR which led to dwindling listening audiences especially as CC started shedding stations.

I forgot to mention that some local groups would rent time on local stations to run AAR but the rent was a killer. I think Phoenix was successful at doing that for a year or two but it got overwhelming after a while.

Right wingers love to cite AARs failure as the left being disorganized, uncommitted etc.

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Rightwing propaganda (however delivered) and social media are a very nasty combinaiton LymphocyteLover May 1 #1
80% of truckers voted for TSF. moondust May 1 #2
New groupe. Laid off Truckers For Trump. multigraincracker May 1 #4
My brother wasn't one of them. He planned his route to be home to vote in person. mucholderthandirt May 2 #57
Same out west Jerry2144 May 1 #3
The same in South Florida. markodochartaigh May 1 #6
I don't speak the language Jerry2144 May 1 #8
In general the older Cubans many of whom prospered markodochartaigh May 1 #48
Try Canadian A.M. radio orangecrush May 1 #5
Reagan didn't deregulate radio. That was the Telecommunications Act of 1996. rsdsharp May 1 #22
Thanks orangecrush May 1 #27
If Democrats listened to radio, Air America would still be broadcasting. Silent Type May 1 #7
It is far from being that simple and that just reinforces RW talking points rurallib May 1 #17
Would love to hear an explanation. If they had the audience, they'd still be in business, even if Silent Type May 1 #31
spectrum is limited and pricey cadoman May 1 #50
Oh, I agree podcasts have easier access, and for those who listen it's similar to Air America, Silent Type May 1 #52
I am doing much of this from memory. rurallib May 2 #58
Yep. One of many media outlets that has a stanglehold on America by the right wing, progressoid May 1 #9
And mainly only hanging around other Dumb people IrishBubbaLiberal May 1 #10
Yes, Talk Radio, which is filled with conspiracy theories. surfered May 1 #11
Even in Blue areas AM radio is toxic MAGA. There's a reason why... 617Blue May 1 #12
I live in a VERY Blue area Mossfern May 1 #14
The same holds for Seattle. Multiple RW stations. maxsolomon May 1 #45
Air America CitizenZero May 1 #13
Most of the radio where I live on both am and fm mwmisses4289 May 1 #15
I Love Radio! I have public radio (which I volunteer for) on nonstop in my kitchen. littlemissmartypants May 1 #16
I hate to be the breaker of bad news for you, but the right own most of the media Mr. Sparkle May 1 #18
Most people don't listen to AM radio these days JI7 May 1 #19
82M Americans listen to AM radio every month SomedayKindaLove May 1 #44
The poll doesn't differentiate between local, national or talk radio Kaleva May 2 #55
That idea is very regional, and ignoring the impact on the Tumbulu May 1 #53
Wide spectrum Iamscrewed May 1 #20
Even back in the Obama years.... GreatShakes66 May 1 #21
I know! Mossfern May 1 #26
40 years has taken it's toll, and Limbaugh was awarded the Medal of Freedom from Drumpf. Huge brainwashing. n/t Evolve Dammit May 1 #23
Yup. There was an absolute abdication on that front. Because there was that one... JHB May 1 #24
Sure, that was the first barrier broken down. BlueTsunami2018 May 1 #25
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WBGO tonkatoy8888 May 1 #29
You bet! Mossfern May 1 #32
The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America by Charlotte Thomson Iserbyte judesedit May 1 #30
Damn! Mossfern May 1 #33
You can download it. I did. judesedit May 1 #46
That sounds really interesting! I've never heard of the author or the book! liberalla May 1 #35
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My change of pace is...... LilElf70 May 1 #34
Life is easier when you're stupid. milestogo May 1 #36
I left my home in Milwaukee sab390 May 1 #37
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AM950 in Minneapolis being a rare exception dflprincess May 1 #39
My adult children and their cousins don't pay any attention at all to radio or broadcast television. hunter May 1 #40
My Boomer friends complain that music suck these days. JohnnyRingo May 1 #41
We have 1260 AM Santa Fe progressive talk. It's good but doesn't have a strong signal. Clouds Passing May 1 #42
In my city we used to have a progressive AM radio station Green960 kimbutgar May 1 #43
Sorry, but nope. flvegan May 1 #47
Parents value sports competition over education...that is really the root cause... AntiFascist May 1 #49
Self-serving propagandists, all of them! Con men seeking money and power bucolic_frolic May 1 #51
reagan killed the fairness doctrine. pansypoo53219 May 2 #54
People will listen to or watch that which reinforces their worldview Kaleva May 2 #56
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