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EarlG

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5. I think technically it wasn't a fiasco though

Tue Apr 29, 2025, 11:38 AM

Apr 29

After he made a stink about Obama's birth certificate, Trump was elected president. He still won -- his campaign didn't collapse. The point being made in the podcast is that a fiasco only really occurs once everyone sees it and starts to participate in it.

Trump's magic has been based in large part by people's belief that he is somehow an economic genius. If that facade crumbles -- which appears to be happening right now -- and he instead becomes associated with economic disaster, then it may be fiasco time for him. (And he will have done this to himself -- he went out of his way to make sure that everyone knew he loved tariffs and tariffs are the best thing ever, so he can't point the finger at anyone else this time.)

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Are we approaching "fiasco" level? [View all] EarlG Apr 29 OP

I think we are approaching a "fiasco" my dear EarlG! CaliforniaPeggy Apr 29 #1

It was a fiasco from when he made a stink about Obama's birth certificate. unblock Apr 29 #2

I think technically it wasn't a fiasco though EarlG Apr 29 #5

Trump's magic -- unblock Apr 29 #11

That's a great take EarlG Apr 29 #12

Interesting it took a child to point out the emperor has no clothes Ponietz Apr 29 #16

I like the pro wrestling analogy blubunyip Apr 29 #39

"...so he can't point the finger at anyone else this time"? calimary Apr 29 #62

Trump was saved from exposure as an economic idiot by the pandemic. House of Roberts Apr 29 #64

He also had people in place the first time around that told him 'no'. louis-t Apr 30 #73

No. That was not fiasco. That was Anal Fistula, just being an asshole. Now is the beginning of fiasco. 3Hotdogs Apr 29 #56

when your social security check Mme. Defarge Apr 30 #68

If only... kirby Apr 29 #3

Most Americans don't want a civil war? SergeStorms Apr 29 #4

Understood EarlG Apr 29 #7

Again, I repeat DENVERPOPS Apr 29 #31

Do you mean....... SergeStorms Apr 29 #42

There are too many (if not the majority) who want a civil war. "When can we start using our guns?" erronis Apr 29 #18

They're also loud-mouthed morons..... SergeStorms Apr 29 #43

Approaching? Oh, we're there. Right in the middle of it. Ocelot II Apr 29 #6

No, we're not there yet IMO Dan Apr 29 #10

Amazon said they're just talking about showing tariff costs.... Nittersing Apr 29 #17

I noticed the 'change' to talking. Dan Apr 29 #19

The increases are already showing up DENVERPOPS Apr 29 #32

Shipping..... SergeStorms Apr 29 #47

Surprise surprise DENVERPOPS Apr 29 #49

Bezos won't want to waste..... SergeStorms Apr 29 #44

Doesn't matter DENVERPOPS Apr 29 #50

Agree. Would term what we're enduring as a rolling fiasco storm. Inasmuch as djt is a allegorical oracle Apr 29 #52

I agree with this assessment Skittles Apr 29 #59

Good point. When I think about it, every Repug I've known has always had a thing allegorical oracle Apr 29 #60

I swear, how do they even have the time to worry about so many people Skittles Apr 29 #61

ppl, pls go listen to the show. pleeease. for one thing, u will love it. mopinko Apr 29 #8

Dear God! I understood your whole post, and I don't text at all. planetc Apr 29 #28

FIASCO???? DENVERPOPS Apr 29 #33

I coined the phrase Trumpocalypse in the Fall of 2016 - little did I know. yellow dahlia Apr 29 #63

Awesome!!!!! DENVERPOPS Apr 29 #66

I've heard some pundits use it recently. yellow dahlia Apr 29 #67

I heard the show when NJCher Apr 30 #70

esp mopinko Apr 30 #71

Just want to point out that Hillary Clinton was laughing since Trump's inaugural. Baitball Blogger Apr 29 #9

And I seceded from the country the day after the election. planetc Apr 29 #29

We have been at fiasco level since November 5, 2024. Sneederbunk Apr 29 #13

I can only hope you are onto something with this Earl! It does seem possible, and more so daily. So, let's all KPN Apr 29 #14

Love TAL and Ira. orangecrush Apr 29 #15

i dont listen to radio like i used to. mopinko Apr 29 #36

I am listening to CFZM 740 A.M. out of Toronto orangecrush Apr 29 #37

I prefer to think of Trump's administration as a soup sandwich. Jedi Guy Apr 29 #20

The nature of the government's fiasco is of course quite different. WestMichRad Apr 29 #21

Just like the audience in Cabaret. The Nazi soldiers enjoyed the schtick but the real people understood. erronis Apr 29 #45

We hit fiasco level the day Trump was elected. And it's been downhill ever since. Martin68 Apr 29 #22

I dont think so GusBob Apr 29 #23

Fiasco is like recession BaronChocula Apr 29 #24

Simple and true. erronis Apr 29 #46

That's really interesting. NH Ethylene Apr 29 #25

Very nice piece, EarlG! marble falls Apr 29 #26

I realize this OP was to point out the danger here, Tom Dyer Apr 29 #27

Great comparison! And it goes so well with that poll I posted this morning showing how many highplainsdem Apr 29 #30

Bookmarking to listen to later robbob Apr 29 #34

Sadly this country is weapons grade stupid Cosmocat Apr 29 #35

I haven't seen Fiasco, but recently... Dem4life1970 Apr 29 #38

, Magoo48 Apr 29 #40

Profound malaise Apr 29 #41

Mockery and laughter can be an effective, even lethal weapon against puffed-up egos peggysue2 Apr 29 #48

Yep fiasco, chaos, melee..... Clouds Passing Apr 29 #51

well past fiasco et tu Apr 29 #53

This is such a good comparison mcar Apr 29 #54

Very Funny bluestateboomer Apr 29 #55

Hell, we passed "fiasco" two months ago...... lastlib Apr 29 #57

The Evidence Is Everywhere DallasNE Apr 29 #58

I still hold out hope that a series of events could trigger a paradigm shift yellow dahlia Apr 29 #65

"fiasco" is too kind for TSF RainCaster Apr 30 #69

found the episode SleeplessinSoCal Apr 30 #72