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haele

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82. When Apartheid fell, the South Africans decided to go with a Truth and Reconciliation program...

Sun Apr 27, 2025, 01:35 AM

Apr 27

The majority of South Africans grumbled, but accepted that racist (and classiest) autocracy had been holding their country corrupt and in poverty; and punishing otherwise neutral people for circumstances of their birth in that society wouldn't keep the country moving forward.
They punished the worst offenders, attempted to recover some of what was lost to the corruption, and have been trying to move forward, opening up opportunities that weren't available before.
But Mob Bosses, like Plantation Owners, always think they are owed everything they stole from their prey or captive workforce.

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"I don't want to hear ONE FUCKING COMPLAINT from ANY Trump voters" [View all] Buttoneer Apr 26 OP

Nice rant but please delete the picture FirstLight Apr 26 #1

Done. Sorry. Buttoneer Apr 26 #5

You get what you vote for... Mr.Bee Apr 27 #87

Excuse me? What the fuck is that? FirstLight Apr 27 #91

Love the rant. orangecrush Apr 26 #2

I like the rant, but disagree in a way. Lars39 Apr 26 #3

People don't learn history Keepthesoulalive Apr 26 #4

I agree.. agingdem Apr 26 #8

Welcome to my club MauiPepe Apr 27 #83

It makes me sad that we have to be this way, but if we just hold hands and sing Kumbaya, nothing will ever change. mucholderthandirt Apr 27 #93

I come from an oral history family. Lars39 Apr 26 #11

If people didn't learn from the last 8 years Keepthesoulalive Apr 26 #23

Oh sure, they'll bitch and moan. But the thing is, their rants are an unhinged mess. paleotn Apr 26 #19

Well, to be honest... OldBaldy1701E Apr 26 #72

A fine distinction! lol Lars39 Apr 27 #89

and I include those who refused to vote for VP Harris in that group. JohnSJ Apr 26 #6

Those who voted for Biden but either switched to trump or sat it out. SammyWinstonJack Apr 26 #26

Yes they could have, especially in those critical swing states. JohnSJ Apr 26 #27

ABSOLUTELY! 🤬 electric_blue68 Apr 26 #62

I include those who failed to vote for Hillary in 2016. RandomNumbers Apr 26 #45

You are absolutely right. No excuse as far as I am concerned for that BS. JohnSJ Apr 26 #58

THIS! electric_blue68 Apr 26 #63

Including Current Members Of Congress OhioTim Apr 27 #84

Your son gets kidnapped and sent to Lousiana jayschool2013 Apr 26 #7

Your kid ODs and you can't save him/her MLWR Apr 26 #9

My connection to this issue runs deep Tickle Apr 26 #10

No disrespect to you, but Dan Apr 26 #13

they all live in Florida and Tickle Apr 26 #17

I feel for you. Take care. Dan Apr 26 #24

Thank you NT Tickle Apr 26 #35

❤️ NT Tickle Apr 27 #80

I could not love or tolerate anyone like that, family or not. NoRethugFriends Apr 27 #77

I know people like this too. progressoid Apr 26 #25

Oh, they are living for now is to "make the liberals heads explode" Walleye Apr 26 #15

I respond "MAGAT's are being owned." kerry-is-my-prez Apr 26 #49

Maybe but I think the GOP will also target liberals specifically which means college-educated professionals -- and women lostnfound Apr 26 #55

So glad I had the chance to go to college before it gets ruined. kerry-is-my-prez Apr 26 #64

I think that MAGAts need to look in the mirror to see who's being owned. love_katz Apr 26 #74

It does run deep and is very complex GreenEyedLefty Apr 26 #20

Nope. Trumpers are not good people, relatives or not. NoRethugFriends Apr 27 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author GreenEyedLefty May 1 #96

Agree republianmushroom Apr 26 #12

Exactly Racygrandma Apr 26 #14

Well, I do want to hear them complain. At least we will know they have learned some thing. And I want them to cry, Walleye Apr 26 #16

Me too. Lessens the pain a little. kerry-is-my-prez Apr 26 #51

Beautifully stated! Paladin Apr 26 #18

Unfortunately, many of us can't just sever ties with them. mwmisses4289 Apr 26 #33

Do the maximum damage possible, given the circumstances. Paladin Apr 26 #37

You can sever ties with relatives. NoRethugFriends Apr 27 #79

Lib-Ownership czarjak Apr 26 #21

They call it "Owning the Libs". Hope they like it! mt Exp Apr 26 #22

THEY own it now. Whether they like it or not. calimary Apr 27 #81

SPOT ON!!! niyad Apr 26 #28

Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Apr 26 #29

Well, you owe us some explanation then. Dock_Yard Apr 26 #53

Okay. H2O Man Apr 26 #54

Maybe I don't get it... but doesn't some of this higher concious aspect could allow people to walk all over you? electric_blue68 Apr 26 #66

No. H2O Man Apr 26 #69

Thank you. Understood. electric_blue68 Apr 28 #95

When Apartheid fell, the South Africans decided to go with a Truth and Reconciliation program... haele Apr 27 #82

I love this rant! Buddyzbuddy Apr 26 #30

Agree blubunyip Apr 26 #39

I agree with your implication that to have voted for Buddyzbuddy Apr 26 #43

Respectfully... A hint? Not if yoi paid attention to what he said about Obama. Plus NYC'rs were telling The Country... electric_blue68 Apr 26 #65

For the record, I know the Felon was and is an Buddyzbuddy Apr 26 #73

Unlike you I'd LOVE to hear any complaints from Trump voters pnwmom Apr 26 #31

I do want to hear it. It makes my day. Demobrat Apr 26 #32

Repugnuts Iamscrewed Apr 26 #34

"" AllaN01Bear Apr 26 #36

I think it's OK to indulge that feeling for about 30 seconds and then we have to turn our efforts from pumping our chest mahina Apr 26 #38

Yes we still need to reach out to R voters whenever it's possible FakeNoose Apr 26 #40

Do they ever reach out to us? blubunyip Apr 26 #42

When they say they regret voting for Trump, that would be an opening mahina Apr 26 #60

fascinating personal history. Feel hetter! electric_blue68 Apr 26 #67

Thank you mahina Apr 26 #70

Agree with blubunyip Apr 26 #41

A starting place is to stop heaping hate on them... pat_k Apr 26 #48

That is a very helpful webpage blubunyip Apr 27 #86

So glad you checked it out. It is so important I created a new post. pat_k Apr 27 #92

This is fantastic! Courtney Roth, you're speaking for me! liberalla Apr 26 #44

I'm Really Conflicted DET Apr 26 #46

I prefer Rep. Maxwell Frost's reponse pat_k Apr 26 #47

I honestly don't understand.... SkylineChili Apr 26 #50

THANK YOU Skittles Apr 27 #75

Most I hear from are celebrating lies from Fox and from the orange bamboo himself. C Moon Apr 26 #52

After reading so many.. Safe as Milk Apr 26 #56

Most Trump voters will just blame all bad results on Democrats, Radical Leftists, etc. thought crime Apr 26 #57

And for our TLDR fam (we got you) Montauk6 Apr 26 #59

Amen Joinfortmill Apr 26 #61

I want to hear 100 million complaints from Trump voters. It's the only way we'll turn this around and stop the Martin68 Apr 26 #68

"owning teh libs" just got really expensive... Jack Valentino Apr 26 #71

problem is, we are ALL paying for it Skittles Apr 27 #76

YES.... why can't they pay for their own bullshit votes? without us Jack Valentino Apr 28 #94

Perfect malaise Apr 27 #85

💯 Six117 Apr 27 #88

They will anyway, but they'll blame Democrats. Buckeye_Democrat Apr 27 #90