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Reply to MorbidButterflyTat (Reply #80)

Fri Apr 18, 2025, 01:11 AM

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"In unprecedented move, DNC official [David Hogg] to spend big to take down fellow Democrats" [View all] LauraInLA Apr 17 OP

It means Democrats take ending corruption within their party very seriously. SSJVegeta Apr 17 #1

While I think PACs, etc., should be illegal, I don't favor unilaterally disavowing all PAC money while the other side LauraInLA Apr 17 #2

Nobody is really advocating for that. SSJVegeta Apr 17 #8

Sorry, I thought that's what you were advocating with this quote: LauraInLA Apr 17 #11

Good point about the union lobbyist money!! SSJVegeta Apr 17 #15

Union Money like the Teamsters and the UAW bottomofthehill Apr 17 #40

P.S. Goods Unite Us documents companies and their political giving. LauraInLA Apr 17 #14

Thanks!!Have you looked at opensecrets? SSJVegeta Apr 17 #17

Yes, Letting Republicans have every single advantage Nixie Apr 17 #9

Corruption by beholdening yourself to special interests is an impediment SSJVegeta Apr 17 #36

Republicans are running the government. Nixie Apr 17 #43

We are not republicans. SSJVegeta Apr 17 #54

Your post isn't really about politics. It's more a quasi-religious Nixie Apr 17 #60

The post is about what Democrats are doing on a material level SSJVegeta Apr 17 #61

Politics isn't about gospel and you deciding who is or isn't Nixie Apr 17 #62

It's literally about whether the people you elect represent you SSJVegeta Apr 17 #64

But personal tangents about morals and corruption isn't Nixie Apr 17 #66

Perhaps you havent noticed the groundswell of support for the "fight the oligarchy" tour SSJVegeta Apr 17 #69

Who's taking bribes? MorbidButterflyTat Apr 18 #80

Democrat "takes" a $200 campaign contribution from someone working on Wall Street or a Pharma company: BRIBED! betsuni Apr 18 #81

That is not corruption. SSJVegeta Apr 18 #82

Who has changed votes or policy because of PACs (which cannot coordinate with candidates nor can they betsuni Apr 18 #87

Look it up SSJVegeta Apr 18 #92

Who has changed votes or policies because of PAC money? betsuni Apr 18 #93

Are you incapable of doing a search? SSJVegeta Apr 18 #95

That's a list of contributions. Where does it say he changed votes or policy? betsuni Apr 18 #96

First you said they cant coordinate or contribute directly. SSJVegeta Apr 18 #97

Here is somebody who has done those things. But he is far from the knly one SSJVegeta Apr 18 #94

Lots of people. SSJVegeta Apr 18 #83

Most of those in the Democratic coalition vote with each other the vast, vast, vast majority of the time. W_HAMILTON Apr 17 #68

Not how it works SSJVegeta Apr 17 #70

Oh bullshit. If 70% of the people supported something that their elected representative refused to support... W_HAMILTON Apr 17 #72

In that case, weed would be legal, insider trading for congresspeople would be illegal SSJVegeta Apr 17 #73

Yet you don't mention that same need for Republicans with exponentially more dollars. live love laugh Apr 17 #27

F Republicans SSJVegeta Apr 17 #37

Bullshit. live love laugh Apr 17 #41

What's bullshit? SSJVegeta Apr 17 #55

Amen Nixie Apr 17 #63

What is? SSJVegeta Apr 17 #65

Welcome to DU Nixie Apr 17 #67

Be more clear with your words. SSJVegeta Apr 17 #71

Not smart. Primarying and winning against another Dem does not trim the rethug majority... brush Apr 17 #78

I will reserve judgement until I see who is targeted and who the primary challenger is AZJonnie Apr 17 #3

Agreed -- we have to look critically at individual races, incumbents, and challengers. LauraInLA Apr 17 #5

Frankly nobody in a deep blue district can justify taking corporate pac money SSJVegeta Apr 17 #56

Yes, I think is called "democracy"... I thought that's supposed to be a GOOD thing!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 17 #77

Probably a response to what Pelosi did to AOC helpisontheway Apr 17 #4

We need new blood who, like their predecessors, are unafraid to lead. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 17 #32

What did Pelosi do to AOC? betsuni Apr 17 #35

Lobbied against her for oversight committee..Pushed for 74 yr old man with cancer instead helpisontheway Apr 18 #91

I fear people think we're casting a TV show instead of dealing with policy and politics. CBHagman Apr 18 #101

Bad mistake.My guess is he will quit in a hissy fit. travelingthrulife Apr 17 #6

You could be right. MineralMan Apr 17 #13

Since he is paying himself $16,000 a month I'd guess not, YMMV nt EX500rider Apr 24 #119

I prefer to donate my money to take down republicans dem4decades Apr 17 #7

winning answer! thank you bottomofthehill Apr 17 #42

getting rid of out-of-touch, ineffective Democrats help to bring down repukes Skittles Apr 17 #51

Id'd rather an ineffective Democrat that gets elected , than a hellfire one that can't. It's a tough call but dem4decades Apr 17 #58

who is saying they cannot get elected? Skittles Apr 17 #59

He's proposing this for super safe blue districts only Arazi Apr 17 #74

I smell bullshit. His opponents are not Democrats. live love laugh Apr 17 #10

We have 2 open seats where elderly Dem MOC died and their R gov won't call elections Arazi Apr 17 #12

I don't believe in unliterally replacing all older Dems -- precision related to effectiveness is required. LauraInLA Apr 17 #19

That's the strategy he's proposing Arazi Apr 17 #34

Makes sense to me!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 17 #45

What does Hogg targeting Democrats have to do with the Republican governor not calling a replacement election? live love laugh Apr 17 #25

(butting in here) I think they mean it's disadvantageous to have so many older members, Qutzupalotl Apr 17 #29

Yes, that's exactly right Arazi Apr 17 #33

No, he doesn't. The voters themselves elected those politicians. W_HAMILTON Apr 17 #52

He's offering those voters a choice between two Dems Arazi Apr 17 #75

He doesn't need to offer them a damn thing -- again, who made him kingmaker? W_HAMILTON Apr 18 #105

The vice chair of the DNC. SSJVegeta Apr 18 #85

And he should immediately resign from that position. W_HAMILTON Apr 18 #106

I dont think schultz should have resigned. Nor should Hogg SSJVegeta Apr 18 #107

LOL, everything you've posted has indicated you would have been the first calling for her head. W_HAMILTON Apr 18 #108

I will not be donating to any efforts to break up the Democratic Party. MineralMan Apr 17 #16

I agree LetMyPeopleVote Apr 24 #112

This idea also incentivizes mediocre Democrats to do better Mike 03 Apr 17 #18

Follow the lead of Bernie & AOC... fight with no compromise!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 17 #47

I tend to agree with him. We can't do politics as usual anymore. We can't afford seat fillers being Vinca Apr 17 #20

Throwing millions around is politics as usual in my book n/t GusBob Apr 17 #22

It seems so, but it takes millions to run for office now. It's not like the old days, especially with Musk thrown in. Vinca Apr 17 #30

"We need a whole lot of AOCs out there"... truer words were never spoken!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 17 #49

If you are a development executive in Hollywood... Mike 03 Apr 17 #21

Sounds revolutionary Fiendish Thingy Apr 17 #23

$20 million to pit Democrats against each other MichMan Apr 17 #24

And where'd he get $20 million? live love laugh Apr 17 #26

Putting the word "grassroots" in front of $20 million purifies it. Everybody else's money is corrupt, of course. betsuni Apr 17 #38

grass roots my ass bottomofthehill Apr 17 #46

He also managed to raise 9 million dollars in the last election cycle bottomofthehill Apr 17 #48

WTF JI7 Apr 18 #88

Hogg is evidently using the Justice Democratic email list LetMyPeopleVote Apr 21 #111

Great JustAnotherGen Apr 17 #28

Member of the DNC should NOT be taking sides in primaries LetMyPeopleVote Apr 17 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author SSJVegeta Apr 18 #86

Bernie: "If they went into our emails I'm sure there would be statements that would be less than flattering betsuni Apr 18 #89

So you are calling on Hogg to likewise resign, yes? W_HAMILTON Apr 18 #90

I think that Hogg should sign the pledge or resign LetMyPeopleVote Apr 21 #110

I was a Clinton Delegate to the 2016 National Convention LetMyPeopleVote Apr 21 #109

I'm honestly seriously disappointed he was considered for DNC leadership when he posts stuff like this... PunkinPi Apr 18 #98

Ah, a thumb on the scales is cool now. Thumb or other finger. And don't say "rigging" -- that's betsuni Apr 17 #39

I was just about to say... W_HAMILTON Apr 17 #50

"I've got news for the Democratic establishment. They can't stop us." Demonizing Dems as corrupt riggers betsuni Apr 17 #53

Yeah, I bet some of the folks who were yelling about party superdelegates voting in the convention nomination... LudwigPastorius Apr 17 #79

Dem Status Quo is helping 1.0444 destroy democracy. PuraVidaDreamin Apr 17 #44

David Hogg is the shiny new idealist on the scene, whose actual experience and JohnSJ Apr 17 #57

This is right out of Putins playbook GusBob Apr 18 #100

"credentials are that he survived a terrible mass shooting." Like the other 3,000+ students at that campus nt EX500rider Apr 24 #120

Could be this is just a devil's advocate initiative dweller Apr 17 #76

Although I have stopped donating to D for a long time now Meowmee Apr 18 #84

Great idea! n/t GusBob Apr 18 #99

Democracy is best when we have choices. Gore1FL Apr 18 #102

Not a smart use of time & money imo SheltieLover Apr 18 #103

Sheldon Whitehouse made an important point about Dems not undermining ourselves jmbar2 Apr 18 #104

Hogg is being paid by his PAC LetMyPeopleVote Apr 24 #113

This is very interesting -- thank you for sharing! You should post this on its own! LauraInLA Apr 24 #114

Here is the thread LetMyPeopleVote Apr 24 #117

👍 LauraInLA Apr 24 #118

DNC Chair Ken Martin-Voters Should Pick their Candidates, Not Party Bosses LetMyPeopleVote Apr 24 #115

Here is more on what Hogg is being paid by his PAC and the fact that Hogg may be using DNC mailing lists to raise money LetMyPeopleVote Apr 24 #116