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SSJVegeta

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61. The post is about what Democrats are doing on a material level

Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:17 PM

Apr 17

And why I support it. It is in contrast with posts that suggest what Democrats are doing is wrong.

If you care about doing the right thing, then do it. It's actually very straightforward. If you want to support candidates that are corrupt, the door is to your far right.

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"In unprecedented move, DNC official [David Hogg] to spend big to take down fellow Democrats" [View all] LauraInLA Apr 17 OP

It means Democrats take ending corruption within their party very seriously. SSJVegeta Apr 17 #1

While I think PACs, etc., should be illegal, I don't favor unilaterally disavowing all PAC money while the other side LauraInLA Apr 17 #2

Nobody is really advocating for that. SSJVegeta Apr 17 #8

Sorry, I thought that's what you were advocating with this quote: LauraInLA Apr 17 #11

Good point about the union lobbyist money!! SSJVegeta Apr 17 #15

Union Money like the Teamsters and the UAW bottomofthehill Apr 17 #40

P.S. Goods Unite Us documents companies and their political giving. LauraInLA Apr 17 #14

Thanks!!Have you looked at opensecrets? SSJVegeta Apr 17 #17

Yes, Letting Republicans have every single advantage Nixie Apr 17 #9

Corruption by beholdening yourself to special interests is an impediment SSJVegeta Apr 17 #36

Republicans are running the government. Nixie Apr 17 #43

We are not republicans. SSJVegeta Apr 17 #54

Your post isn't really about politics. It's more a quasi-religious Nixie Apr 17 #60

The post is about what Democrats are doing on a material level SSJVegeta Apr 17 #61

Politics isn't about gospel and you deciding who is or isn't Nixie Apr 17 #62

It's literally about whether the people you elect represent you SSJVegeta Apr 17 #64

But personal tangents about morals and corruption isn't Nixie Apr 17 #66

Perhaps you havent noticed the groundswell of support for the "fight the oligarchy" tour SSJVegeta Apr 17 #69

Who's taking bribes? MorbidButterflyTat Apr 18 #80

Democrat "takes" a $200 campaign contribution from someone working on Wall Street or a Pharma company: BRIBED! betsuni Apr 18 #81

That is not corruption. SSJVegeta Apr 18 #82

Who has changed votes or policy because of PACs (which cannot coordinate with candidates nor can they betsuni Apr 18 #87

Look it up SSJVegeta Apr 18 #92

Who has changed votes or policies because of PAC money? betsuni Apr 18 #93

Are you incapable of doing a search? SSJVegeta Apr 18 #95

That's a list of contributions. Where does it say he changed votes or policy? betsuni Apr 18 #96

First you said they cant coordinate or contribute directly. SSJVegeta Apr 18 #97

Here is somebody who has done those things. But he is far from the knly one SSJVegeta Apr 18 #94

Lots of people. SSJVegeta Apr 18 #83

Most of those in the Democratic coalition vote with each other the vast, vast, vast majority of the time. W_HAMILTON Apr 17 #68

Not how it works SSJVegeta Apr 17 #70

Oh bullshit. If 70% of the people supported something that their elected representative refused to support... W_HAMILTON Apr 17 #72

In that case, weed would be legal, insider trading for congresspeople would be illegal SSJVegeta Apr 17 #73

Yet you don't mention that same need for Republicans with exponentially more dollars. live love laugh Apr 17 #27

F Republicans SSJVegeta Apr 17 #37

Bullshit. live love laugh Apr 17 #41

What's bullshit? SSJVegeta Apr 17 #55

Amen Nixie Apr 17 #63

What is? SSJVegeta Apr 17 #65

Welcome to DU Nixie Apr 17 #67

Be more clear with your words. SSJVegeta Apr 17 #71

Not smart. Primarying and winning against another Dem does not trim the rethug majority... brush Apr 17 #78

I will reserve judgement until I see who is targeted and who the primary challenger is AZJonnie Apr 17 #3

Agreed -- we have to look critically at individual races, incumbents, and challengers. LauraInLA Apr 17 #5

Frankly nobody in a deep blue district can justify taking corporate pac money SSJVegeta Apr 17 #56

Yes, I think is called "democracy"... I thought that's supposed to be a GOOD thing!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 17 #77

Probably a response to what Pelosi did to AOC helpisontheway Apr 17 #4

We need new blood who, like their predecessors, are unafraid to lead. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 17 #32

What did Pelosi do to AOC? betsuni Apr 17 #35

Lobbied against her for oversight committee..Pushed for 74 yr old man with cancer instead helpisontheway Apr 18 #91

I fear people think we're casting a TV show instead of dealing with policy and politics. CBHagman Apr 18 #101

Bad mistake.My guess is he will quit in a hissy fit. travelingthrulife Apr 17 #6

You could be right. MineralMan Apr 17 #13

Since he is paying himself $16,000 a month I'd guess not, YMMV nt EX500rider Apr 24 #119

I prefer to donate my money to take down republicans dem4decades Apr 17 #7

winning answer! thank you bottomofthehill Apr 17 #42

getting rid of out-of-touch, ineffective Democrats help to bring down repukes Skittles Apr 17 #51

Id'd rather an ineffective Democrat that gets elected , than a hellfire one that can't. It's a tough call but dem4decades Apr 17 #58

who is saying they cannot get elected? Skittles Apr 17 #59

He's proposing this for super safe blue districts only Arazi Apr 17 #74

I smell bullshit. His opponents are not Democrats. live love laugh Apr 17 #10

We have 2 open seats where elderly Dem MOC died and their R gov won't call elections Arazi Apr 17 #12

I don't believe in unliterally replacing all older Dems -- precision related to effectiveness is required. LauraInLA Apr 17 #19

That's the strategy he's proposing Arazi Apr 17 #34

Makes sense to me!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 17 #45

What does Hogg targeting Democrats have to do with the Republican governor not calling a replacement election? live love laugh Apr 17 #25

(butting in here) I think they mean it's disadvantageous to have so many older members, Qutzupalotl Apr 17 #29

Yes, that's exactly right Arazi Apr 17 #33

No, he doesn't. The voters themselves elected those politicians. W_HAMILTON Apr 17 #52

He's offering those voters a choice between two Dems Arazi Apr 17 #75

He doesn't need to offer them a damn thing -- again, who made him kingmaker? W_HAMILTON Apr 18 #105

The vice chair of the DNC. SSJVegeta Apr 18 #85

And he should immediately resign from that position. W_HAMILTON Apr 18 #106

I dont think schultz should have resigned. Nor should Hogg SSJVegeta Apr 18 #107

LOL, everything you've posted has indicated you would have been the first calling for her head. W_HAMILTON Apr 18 #108

I will not be donating to any efforts to break up the Democratic Party. MineralMan Apr 17 #16

I agree LetMyPeopleVote Apr 24 #112

This idea also incentivizes mediocre Democrats to do better Mike 03 Apr 17 #18

Follow the lead of Bernie & AOC... fight with no compromise!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 17 #47

I tend to agree with him. We can't do politics as usual anymore. We can't afford seat fillers being Vinca Apr 17 #20

Throwing millions around is politics as usual in my book n/t GusBob Apr 17 #22

It seems so, but it takes millions to run for office now. It's not like the old days, especially with Musk thrown in. Vinca Apr 17 #30

"We need a whole lot of AOCs out there"... truer words were never spoken!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 17 #49

If you are a development executive in Hollywood... Mike 03 Apr 17 #21

Sounds revolutionary Fiendish Thingy Apr 17 #23

$20 million to pit Democrats against each other MichMan Apr 17 #24

And where'd he get $20 million? live love laugh Apr 17 #26

Putting the word "grassroots" in front of $20 million purifies it. Everybody else's money is corrupt, of course. betsuni Apr 17 #38

grass roots my ass bottomofthehill Apr 17 #46

He also managed to raise 9 million dollars in the last election cycle bottomofthehill Apr 17 #48

WTF JI7 Apr 18 #88

Hogg is evidently using the Justice Democratic email list LetMyPeopleVote Apr 21 #111

Great JustAnotherGen Apr 17 #28

Member of the DNC should NOT be taking sides in primaries LetMyPeopleVote Apr 17 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author SSJVegeta Apr 18 #86

Bernie: "If they went into our emails I'm sure there would be statements that would be less than flattering betsuni Apr 18 #89

So you are calling on Hogg to likewise resign, yes? W_HAMILTON Apr 18 #90

I think that Hogg should sign the pledge or resign LetMyPeopleVote Apr 21 #110

I was a Clinton Delegate to the 2016 National Convention LetMyPeopleVote Apr 21 #109

I'm honestly seriously disappointed he was considered for DNC leadership when he posts stuff like this... PunkinPi Apr 18 #98

Ah, a thumb on the scales is cool now. Thumb or other finger. And don't say "rigging" -- that's betsuni Apr 17 #39

I was just about to say... W_HAMILTON Apr 17 #50

"I've got news for the Democratic establishment. They can't stop us." Demonizing Dems as corrupt riggers betsuni Apr 17 #53

Yeah, I bet some of the folks who were yelling about party superdelegates voting in the convention nomination... LudwigPastorius Apr 17 #79

Dem Status Quo is helping 1.0444 destroy democracy. PuraVidaDreamin Apr 17 #44

David Hogg is the shiny new idealist on the scene, whose actual experience and JohnSJ Apr 17 #57

This is right out of Putins playbook GusBob Apr 18 #100

"credentials are that he survived a terrible mass shooting." Like the other 3,000+ students at that campus nt EX500rider Apr 24 #120

Could be this is just a devil's advocate initiative dweller Apr 17 #76

Although I have stopped donating to D for a long time now Meowmee Apr 18 #84

Great idea! n/t GusBob Apr 18 #99

Democracy is best when we have choices. Gore1FL Apr 18 #102

Not a smart use of time & money imo SheltieLover Apr 18 #103

Sheldon Whitehouse made an important point about Dems not undermining ourselves jmbar2 Apr 18 #104

Hogg is being paid by his PAC LetMyPeopleVote Apr 24 #113

This is very interesting -- thank you for sharing! You should post this on its own! LauraInLA Apr 24 #114

Here is the thread LetMyPeopleVote Apr 24 #117

👍 LauraInLA Apr 24 #118

DNC Chair Ken Martin-Voters Should Pick their Candidates, Not Party Bosses LetMyPeopleVote Apr 24 #115

Here is more on what Hogg is being paid by his PAC and the fact that Hogg may be using DNC mailing lists to raise money LetMyPeopleVote Apr 24 #116