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In reply to the discussion: Gaza is a 'textbook genocide'. [View all]AloeVera
(3,862 posts)130. You might want to rephrase your question?
I agree one should not be ignorant of the definition of genocide, and I'm not talking about the one in the Oxford Dictionary.
According to international law, the physical element of genocide is defined as:
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
So killing at least 15,000 plus 7,000 presumed dead under rubble, and injuring at least 35,000 with unknown number more killed/injured - that seems not high enough for some to consider it genocide. I don't know what the magic number could be, but that is a lot of human suffering. Not counting the mental anguish and harm to the rest of the group, which you'll note is also included.
Whether Israel has the intent or not - intent being difficult to prove - the actual acts committed could be interpreted as falling under genocidal acts.
The most worrying to me is the conditions of life created (with intent, in my view) and the impending human costs, which could be catastrophic.
In that case the debate should be over, but we'll still have doubters.
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The people who need to listen won't bother because what's happening there doesn't bother them.
onecaliberal
Nov 2023
#1
Actually, there is no textbook that defines ethnic cleansing in legal terms.
Beastly Boy
Nov 2023
#75
You believe it's Israel's intent to completely destroy everyone of Palestinian descent?
egduj
Nov 2023
#24
I'm not asking anyone to prove intent, just if, in their opinion, if it's Israel (or Netanyahu's) intent to annihilate
egduj
Nov 2023
#141
Trying to remember which "genocide" involved the attacking party warning the victims to leave..
EX500rider
Nov 2023
#21
"There's nothing 'pretend' about genocide" is exacxtly why this agenda-driven talking point is so offensive.
lapucelle
Nov 2023
#86
No, nothing pretend about real genocide, none in Israel or West Bank or Gaza however
EX500rider
Nov 2023
#87
Innocent civilians pay the price in every war but that does not make it genocide
EX500rider
Nov 2023
#117
Kind of how you have a big blind spot whenever a certain group of terrorists who started all this is mentioned
AZSkiffyGeek
Nov 2023
#89
Wanting to quit a discussion board because you can't post antisemitic slurs is telling
AZSkiffyGeek
Nov 2023
#129