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YP_Yooper

(291 posts)
5. No, absolutely wrong, and is why it's so dangerous
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 01:42 PM
Jan 2022

I wrote this elsewhere about how bad of an idea this is… and it was already done once

“It's why they [ALEC] have been working so hard to take over enough states to call a Constitutional Convention to rewrite our Constitution.”
THIS is the biggest threat to the country, push by ALEC. Once convened, those present can do whatever they want including eliminating the constitution itself.

Similarly, former Chief Justice of the United States Warren Burger wrote in 1988:

[T]here is no way to effectively limit or muzzle the actions of a Constitutional Convention. The Convention could make its own rules and set its own agenda. Congress might try to limit the Convention to one amendment or one issue, but there is no way to assure that the Convention would obey. After a Convention is convened, it will be too late to stop the Convention if we don’t like its agenda.

Why?
A convention could write its own rules.
A convention could set its own agenda, possibly influenced by powerful interest groups.
A convention could choose a new ratification process.
No other body, including the courts, has clear authority over a convention.


https://www.cbpp.org/research/states-likely-could-not-control-constitutional-convention-on-balanced-budget-amendment-or

A thought… Just like they did before in 1787, they could send state representatives to the convention, say 2 per state (as opposed to representation based on population) to eliminate the large, blue states, and write whatever ratification process they needed to overcome any objections.

...and ALEC are not that far away from succeeding

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I referenced ALEC, but didn’t give background:
This group is LITERALLY a VIP list of all the most right-wing financiers, politicians and corporate entities who operate especially at the state level to push pro-corporate, pro-extremist legislation across the country.

https://www.alecexposed.org/wiki/ALEC_Exposed

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Some of us never heard of "Convention of States". BComplex Jan 2022 #1
I didn't know much about it Tickle Jan 2022 #3
"states will govern themselves and impose term limits on the federal government" YP_Yooper Jan 2022 #2
they can't eliminate the constitution Tickle Jan 2022 #4
No, absolutely wrong, and is why it's so dangerous YP_Yooper Jan 2022 #5
next time someone Tickle Jan 2022 #6
Seriously YP_Yooper Jan 2022 #7
Under article V it still takes 3/4 of the states to ratify any such amendment. Angleae Jan 2022 #8
Not for a convention YP_Yooper Jan 2022 #13
You are completely wrong. onenote Jan 2022 #15
Not arguing here at all against what you're saying YP_Yooper Jan 2022 #20
Secession amendment if they convene a convention. roamer65 Jan 2022 #9
The supreme court, in Texas v White, says otherwise. Angleae Jan 2022 #11
The powers that are not specifically stated are reserved for the states via the 10th Amendment. roamer65 Jan 2022 #12
No, it isn't, we had a civil war to decide that question (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Jan 2022 #21
We are going to have another. roamer65 Jan 2022 #22
Why are people afraid of a Constitutional convention? former9thward Jan 2022 #10
Read post 5 YP_Yooper Jan 2022 #14
You continue to misstate Article V. onenote Jan 2022 #16
This is true for an amendment, but opens a dangerous door YP_Yooper Jan 2022 #18
That argument proves too much or too little. onenote Jan 2022 #23
We have had only one Constitutional convention. former9thward Jan 2022 #26
Because a Constitutional Covention is everything or nothing Azathoth Jan 2022 #17
That is not true. onenote Jan 2022 #24
And there's no appeal process if you don't like the results. 48656c6c6f20 Jan 2022 #25
"I don't know if this means we can go back to slavery" WarGamer Jan 2022 #19
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